Post a (tough) Deity map for me to play

[krikav]

Sorry guys for wasting your time with such an easy game.
In seriousness, I like it when there is something "good" in a start (here we have nice traits and lots of wood to chop) and something that makes it still very challenging (here it is semi-iso with an unlovable character).

It wasn't easy for me. I did several mistakes and learned alot. I really appreciate the map! Fun to see Lain play it too.

In case you have not checked it out, do look at NC201, I think that there is a similar element of something good, but still a challenge. (Although not as much as here I suspect).

Whats challenging?

Spoiler Don't read if you want to be suprised in NC201! :

You are on a continent with Sulieman which will box you in quickly and limit you to ~4 cities. Further away is also Shaka.
You do have the ability to rush Sulieman, several different ways, but if you do, Shaka can do his ordinary Shaka-thing.

 

[Fippy]

I really insist that going for chariots in this one means you are accepting a luck based game
I played around with stuff like this on deity for hmm..8 years at least?
Rusten may challenge me for showing it's "safe", but until i see more variance i will not believe so.

 

[krikav]

I really insist that going for chariots in this one means you are accepting a luck based game
I played around with stuff like this on deity for hmm..8 years at least?
Rusten may challenge me for showing it's "safe", but until i see more variance i will not believe so.

I do agree to a large extent:

Spoiler :

 

[Fish Man]

I do agree to a large extent:

Spoiler :

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Haha...1500BC spears...brutal. Once you see hammers in the sand you know it's over for chariots.

Will have to agree with @Fippy that no matter what promos you take chariots are still a bit too weak to be safe. Even against archers, there's just too much variance. It could take 2 or 5-6 chariots to kill a single archer in a 40% defenses city, for instance. If it's the former, great! If it's the latter, you've just wasted a hundred or so hammers, pissed off a neighbor who's one of the top 3 aggressive civs in the game, and given a couple of their archers CG3 promos...not so good.

 

[Bibor]

Haha...1500BC spears...brutal. Once you see hammers in the sand you know it's over for chariots.

And this is how and why people learned to love Hatty

Also happy new year everyone!

 

[krikav]

@Lain regarding the pericles map.
When you said it didn't turn out too well I thought you had some serious mishap. Then it turns out you won the same victory condition as I did, only 46 turns earlier.
Shows me cleary that I have soo many things to learn.
Thanks alot for the videos, hope motivation jumps up soon!
Keep a iso map available for the next vote, I want to see more of that.
And also, consider playing more of the NC maps, I think it would help us with more activity there!

 

[Fippy]

Cheers on your win Lain,
i was thinking about my game and what we gain from more HA "showcases".
Not that much imo, early rushes can always go different, and i think we estabilished how important early writing was here.

 

[sampsa]

Sidenote: creative is an amazing trait.

 

[Bibor]

Sidenote: creative is an amazing trait.

It was deity youtube plays and that Willem thread that taught me how to play with city placement I'd otherwise dimiss as damaging to my OCD. I think Hatty is the leader when stepping up to a higher difficulty.

 

[Gwaja]

This one comes to mind as a map that kicked the butt of most people who attempted it:
https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/the-ultimate-evil-cooked-maps-prepare-to-die.515022/

iirc one person actually won, so not impossible. The first of those attached save should be deity, I think.

I just wanted to congratulate Lain for beating my map. Just got around watching his YouTube video upload.

Incredible win.... very different than Drewisfat who also managed to win it! ^_^

 

[Wrathful]

Stumbled across this map while experimenting with Deity a little bit, trying to get a feel for the difficulty. I don't know how hard this one would be for experts, but it looks pretty tough to me. I didn't "test" it or anything, just looked around in the worldbuilder.

Leader is Charlemagne.

Starting screen:

Spoiler :

 

[krikav]

@Wrathful
Here is a Buffy5 save of that same game. With barb techs added.
In case someone wants to take a crack at it with the proper mod.

 

[shakabrade]

@Wrathful
Here is a Buffy5 save of that same game. With barb techs added.
In case someone wants to take a crack at it with the proper mod.

Thanks, krikav, I basically did not want to bother with file swapping while I have other game in BUFFY still active and then you stepped in.

 

[Pedro78]

Playing Pericles map next and without spoilering too much, I'd really appreciate some shadow games of that one. Feel like I need a better blueprint to follow for this type of map, mine worked out so-so . Anyone out there who plays this like "Np, I know what to do for maximizing win chance"? @Pedro78, where are you these days ? Maybe @Fippy wants to give it a shot if you didn't check the map yet? Or even if you did, don't think it changes much.

Hi Lain, been a while.
Looks like I'm a bit late to the party here (also I've already watched part of your playthrough). I'll be glad to play the next hard map though!

 

[krikav]

@Lain I have noticed that Youtube have gotten very boring lately.
It seems that some crucial element is really missing!

 

[Bibor]

@Lain I have noticed that Youtube have gotten very boring lately.
It seems that some crucial element is really missing!

I agree. Apparently new videos are nowhere to be found. :-/

 

[Fish Man]

I think the US military kidnapped @Lain because they finally realized his strategic brilliance was a crucial asset that could not be ignored, him having won 90%+ of the deity games he's played .

 

[Bibor]

I think the US military kidnapped @Lain because they finally realized his strategic brilliance was a crucial asset that could not be ignored, him having won 90%+ of the deity games he's played .

Hopefully Rudankort kidnapped him instead. We have to get Rudankort to start playing Civ4

 

[Wrathful]

Maybe we just need to roll harder maps!

Got a few good ones here. Kublai is the leader for all of them. I did handpick the opponents, for extra challenge.

Map scripts are all Fractal, cold climate.

Spoiler Map 1: HOF-Worthy :

Not exactly a hard map.
There are even more goodies awaiting after you settle on the stone.

Spoiler Map 2: A Good Challenge :

This one looked pretty tough but fair. Would be interesting to see on video.

Spoiler Super Spoilery Hint :

The Aggressive trait might be pretty helpful here...

Spoiler Map 3: Kublai's Nightmare :

This map looked absolutely horrendous. One of the worst maps I've ever rolled. I will be very impressed if anyone could pull off a win here.

I used BUFFY for all the maps this time. Hope I don't have an out of date version of the mod or anything.

 

[Lain]

Will try to get something going next friday, exams end next week and then I'm free again . Should put together a map vote of some kind then.

Thanks for map suggestions and feedback, happy to play more soon!