Post-pandemic changes

[amadeus]

Getting back on track, I’m wondering if there will be long-term shifts towards more domestic manufacturing in general. Not just from the coronavirus but also that robotics seems to be the wave of the future in replacing the menial labor that we currently outsource to the third world. Their wages are rising and automation is becoming cheaper, so why not move that production back?

 

[tamyrlin]

I dare to interfere ! How am I here If I am a commie ?

I am just expressing frustration at many right wing populists in power in the current world including my own country . I don't know whether a depression will help left wing or right wing more though.

 

[AdamCrock]

Getting back on track, I’m wondering if there will be long-term shifts towards more domestic manufacturing in general. Not just from the coronavirus but also that robotics seems to be the wave of the future in replacing the menial labor that we currently outsource to the third world. Their wages are rising and automation is becoming cheaper, so why not move that production back?

hmmm....

 

[AdamCrock]

I am just expressing frustration at many right wing populists in power in the current world including my own country . I don't know whether a depression will help left wing or right wing more though.

I appreciate You telling me so . I really do , to which I say


bollocks ! bite me ! go and ask Your grangma if there's some pudding left You , You twerp !

 

[AdamCrock]

Oh man I i'm sorry , this really is not the time we should be at odds, just be safe.

 

[Zardnaar]

I am just expressing frustration at many right wing populists in power in the current world including my own country . I don't know whether a depression will help left wing or right wing more though.

Generally helps right wing.

You need to get to a certain income level to start thinking about left wing ideals. This is why outside of Western Europe and a few other spots the world is basically conservative.

Neo liberalism might start dying out, conservatives will probably go more authoritarian or old school pre 70s.

Economy might go more left wing with government regulations and intervention FDR style but a lot of progressive social ideas will probably die.

 

[AdamCrock]

It's progressing as I've predicted, right-wing nationals taking over, I hope I am wrong.

 

[Cloud_Strife]

We cannot keep kowtowing and genuflecting to the rich, Americans need to realize just how precarious our situation is; people WILL starve and DIE during this, make no mistake about that, even as the rich complain about their fancy numbers not going as high as before.

 

[Patine]

We cannot keep kowtowing and genuflecting to the rich, Americans need to realize just how precarious our situation is; people WILL starve and DIE during this, make no mistake about that, even as the rich complain about their fancy numbers not going as high as before.

This particularly issue isn't as sharply classist as some (and I, myself, have a sharp anti-plutocratic tendency, as is). Rich and powerful people have been infected by this disease, and some are also publicly griping at these measures, and suffering from them too. EVERYONE is affected by this. I know it's hard to get outside of your strictly classist and demographic-based worldview and shell, but that viewpoint is at a rock bottom of helpfulness in this particular case. This is a HUMANITY-scale issue, not a demographic or social class issue. Your attitude is the weakest link in times like these!

 

[AdamCrock]

We cannot keep kowtowing and genuflecting to the rich, Americans need to realize just how precarious our situation is; people WILL starve and DIE during this, make no mistake about that, even as the rich complain about their fancy numbers not going as high as before.

Maybe people will eat cake ?

or each other ?

Either option is for human (trust me I am one) a not particularly inviting , than I'll just shoot and not particularly take measure at am I shooting at !

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

Maybe people will eat cake ?

or each other ?

Or cakes made of each other.

 

[Patine]

Or cakes made of each other.

The human head "Father's Day cake," complete with the candles, for that undead father rising from the grave, from "Creepshow," just came to mind.

 

[AdamCrock]

I distinctly remember there was an option in Civ 4 for People to eat cake !

edit: In one of those random events.

 

[AdamCrock]

I think it was some sort of Queen who said this originally - You see when confronted with a fact that people have nothing to eat, She said : "Why don't They eat cake ?" I believe They've beheaded her afterwards ...

 

[Cloud_Strife]

This particularly issue isn't as sharply classist as some (and I, myself, have a sharp anti-plutocratic tendency, as is). Rich and powerful people have been infected by this disease, and some are also publicly griping at these measures, and suffering from them too. EVERYONE is affected by this. I know it's hard to get outside of your strictly classist and demographic-based worldview and shell, but that viewpoint is at a rock bottom of helpfulness in this particular case. This is a HUMANITY-scale issue, not a demographic or social class issue. Your attitude is the weakest link in times like these!

I don't care. The rich have hoarded their wealth and a disproportionate amount of materials and some of us are already close to the breaking point, even before the virus hit.

 

[Zardnaar]

We cannot keep kowtowing and genuflecting to the rich, Americans need to realize just how precarious our situation is; people WILL starve and DIE during this, make no mistake about that, even as the rich complain about their fancy numbers not going as high as before.

Generally things like this change the rich at least short term. As Patine said they're not immune and they need stable society.

Neo liberalism was already on the way out I think.

As I said though socially though it will probably become more conservative as countries that have done well via government intervention will be better off.

The flip side us the do what you want, hippie freedom of expression thing might die off and back to the do what we say approach will probably get popular again. Or we spank your ass approach.

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

I think it was some sort of Queen who said this originally - You see when confronted with a fact that people have nothing to eat, She said : "Why don't They eat cake ?" I believe They've beheaded her afterwards ...

Actually, I think the word she used actually was a type of sweet bread, but it got mistranslated at some point

 

[Zardnaar]

I think it was some sort of Queen who said this originally - You see when confronted with a fact that people have nothing to eat, She said : "Why don't They eat cake ?" I believe They've beheaded her afterwards ...

Marie Antoniette. The quote was taken out of context and via translation.

If she said it she probably said something like feed them bread.

There won't be revolution in most western nations. Government jobs become great and the armyblijes getting paid.

If the government can't pay the army us where you tend to run into trouble. Or if the armies families can't eat.

 

[AdamCrock]

distinctly

I don't care.

You don't care ! Let's dance (can some1 make a jingle out of this !?)
It goes:

I don't care ,
You don't care ,
nanana na NA !

 

[AdamCrock]

Marie Antoniette. The quote was taken out of context and via translation.

If she said it she probably said something like feed them bread.

There won't be revolution in most western nations. Government jobs become great and the armyblijes getting paid.

If the government can't pay the army us where you tend to run into trouble. Or if the armies families can't eat.

"Let them eat cake !"

- Revolution 101