Post-pandemic changes

"Let them eat cake !"

- Revolution 101

Heh. The military won't support overthrowing the government. When they've been called baby murderers in the 60s through to well make you all unemployed and give the money to the people they won't need to much encouragement to suppress disorder.

Viva the revolution. Or play PS4.
 
Grain stores are intact and high, prices are low. It's distribution that's the question. Follow whatever we're calling bread lines for the economically distressed. Corn bread is more cake than not and yum. We could eat cake indeed. Unless something changes more.

Follow commodities, I guess. They've been in the toilet.
 
The ither alternative is :

Are You ready Comrade !?
 
Grain stores are intact and high, prices are low. It's distribution that's the question. Follow whatever we're calling bread lines for the economically distressed. Corn bread is more cake than not and yum. We could eat cake indeed. Unless something changes more.

Follow commodities, I guess. They've been in the toilet.

Not making a sense in the way of story. But You are good to board the Rocket ! First door on the left !

Next !
 
Whoa guys, chill, there is plenty of food. Well in america anyway. We're a huge exporter of food. The question is who's going to pay for it? That's the issue, people may not be able to pay for their food and shelter. But we have plenty of it. The government will just go further into debt to pay all the landlords and that'll be that.
 
I don't care. The rich have hoarded their wealth and a disproportionate amount of materials and some of us are already close to the breaking point, even before the virus hit.

They have indeed. But that's not the issue NOW! You can't keep applying the same, tunnel vision, one-track message to EVERYTHING, even if it's not remotely appropriate or applicable, or people might think your just a scripted bot, and not real forum user. You may be miserable with life, and it may have given you a raw deal, but not everyone wants to only talk about, or hear about, those specific topics. Everyone knows the rich screw people over, but that's not meaningful to EVERY conversation. And you demand empathy and support for your struggles in life, but are cold, callous, and apathetic to most other people's. So why should people continue to care, if you don't?
 
Whoa guys, chill, there is plenty of food. Well in america anyway. We're a huge exporter of food. The question is who's going to pay for it? That's the issue, people may not be able to pay for their food and shelter. But we have plenty of it. The government will just go further into debt to pay all the landlords and that'll be that.

In "the talk" yesterday I said worse case scenario we're back to soup kitchens and men's work camps.

As I said been looking at the 1930's into the 50s a lot.

I think Patine is right with his earlier assessment. Even the rich are at risk here not just their wealth. They still need assistant's and employee's. They still want to play golf and sit around with young models on private boats.
 
Whoa guys, chill, there is plenty of food. Well in america anyway. We're a huge exporter of food. The question is who's going to pay for it? That's the issue, people may not be able to pay for their food and shelter. But we have plenty of it. The government will just go further into debt to pay all the landlords and that'll be that.

Of course, going into massive debt for an overbloated military kill people horribly and commit numerous war crimes, and fund among the world's biggest terrorist organizations and secret police agencies (the CIA, NSA, CSC, DHS, FBI, Military Special Operations Units, etc.), are just a given - taken for granted, with no debate. But going into massive debt to save millions of lives from a global pandemic is a worrisome and concerning proposition. Priorities determined by soulless sociopaths, I see. Time for people with actual integrity, feelings, and humanity to take the helm, I think - while there still is still is a meaningful helm to take.
 
As we are levaing this dying world behind in rockets, how many of us might get throug .... ? What is next another flood and anorher generation myth ? What are We ? Are We a .... CIVILIZATION ???? Or our artefacts get buried in the sand .....

 
In "the talk" yesterday I said worse case scenario we're back to soup kitchens and men's work camps.

As I said been looking at the 1930's into the 50s a lot.

I think Patine is right with his earlier assessment. Even the rich are at risk here not just their wealth. They still need assistant's and employee's. They still want to play golf and sit around with young models on private boats.

I think we'll just expand current programs like food stamps and let them go to grocery stores. Our school district continues to distribute breakfasts and lunches to families on those programs for their kids. If you're out of work you basically need enough money to cover rent, food and some minimum amount for everything else- clothing, toothpaste etc. We have food programs, we have unemployment for the other stuff, we probably need a housing assistance program so government can just cover people's mortgages until they can recover their income. Or at least put payments on pause indefinitely.
 
I'm not sure I understand baristas.
They work at places like Starbucks and make and mix fancy coffees, often with a decorative swirl or other image on top. The terms for the different coffees regarding sizes and ingredients are some pretentious hodgdpodge that I have never needed to know since I'm not a coffee drinker.

My landlord shut down all non-emergency maintenance in response to the virus. Thing is that it rained all last week when they were supposed to be painting stuff, and I just got a notice that they are now going to paint next week. What lying pieces of crap they are. They don't care one bit about their workers or contractors but sure do put on a transparent safety dance. I take it the end of maintenance was really an excuse to stop paying everyone they can get away with; they're still going to do whatever they actually want to do with respect to this stuff; damn the consequences.
Nobody is in the office here now, except security. And even then I don't see them around much (saw one of them the other night; he was surprised to see me in the hallway and I told him I was going to check my mail - a normal thing for me to do at 2 am if I'm awake and wanting to go for a walk). So he said okay and carried on.

The manager mentioned that there are several vacant suites in the building that are being repainted - so that's what maintenance is doing these days. They're all upstairs so during the day when the home care people aren't here for their visits, I don't tend to see anyone.

Today the city of Buenos Aires decided to honour its medical personnel by staging a viral applause from windows and balconies since we're not all officially kept inside. It's the first time I've seen such a popular display in support of something or somebody instead of against [insert corrupt inept ruler]. It was emotional.

I did for the past fortnight ever since the first cases were reported and the government started telling us not to panic.
This balcony clapping is also done in Italy and Spain, and there are areas there where people take musical instruments out and give each other concerts. They're still social distancing, but people have to do these things to stay mentally healthy.

Well that's a hell of a typo :nuke:
When you do find it, lob it at Jason Kenney and his cabinet. That might wake them up.

k-6th grade education in US doubles as day care so highly unlikely this will ever happen. In Michigan you can already enroll your high school student in online high school. It's some newer program, not sure what it entails. And there are plenty of online only colleges.
Just beware of some online schools; make sure they're affiliated with brick-and-mortar institutions, because some of these online ones are nothing more than diploma mills (as are some of the physical "charter" schools; students have reported being given very few actual meaningful assignments and nobody ever fails).

1) How about isolate all the at-risk people (millions) for a year and let the virus tear through the all the other population to produce herd immunity?
Stamp out any later outbreaks that flare up aggressively.
Alberta's first fatality was a doctor in his '60s who is now dead because he - get this - attended a curling bonspiel for doctors (dentists?). This was when people were told "no groups of over 250 people and no groups of over 50 if anyone attending is at-risk, from out of the country, senior, or who works in an essential service.

Well, the only restriction these idiots didn't break was the "foreign" part. So now they're all in isolation, one's dead, and they've spread it to their families, patients, other health workers,... [pissed]

Forcing the at-risk into isolation for that long a time would result in violence and suicide for some.

Yeah - this is going to be a challenge. Apparently putting them in front of the Xbox for 8 hours a day doesn't count as teaching!
The Education minister in my province promised that every student will get a passing grade and all Grade 12 students will get the marks they need in the subjects required for college/university entrance. How she's going to make that happen, who knows?

This has resulted in some kids refusing to do the schoolwork brought home for them, or to bother with online classes (we're going to pass anyway, so why can't I just play games and watch TV?)

The people already home-schooling are sitting back and laughing, as they don't have much to make in the way of adjustments.

I wonder if we could just give them Civ (IV) and tell them to go learn history!
Anyone who ever wanted to design games to teach certain subjects should go ahead, as they'll probably be used now.

I've never tried Civ IV.

This particularly issue isn't as sharply classist as some (and I, myself, have a sharp anti-plutocratic tendency, as is). Rich and powerful people have been infected by this disease, and some are also publicly griping at these measures, and suffering from them too. EVERYONE is affected by this. I know it's hard to get outside of your strictly classist and demographic-based worldview and shell, but that viewpoint is at a rock bottom of helpfulness in this particular case. This is a HUMANITY-scale issue, not a demographic or social class issue. Your attitude is the weakest link in times like these!
Would you not agree that reversing the decision about the date of the AISH payments would help a great deal? I'm scared to death my rent payment might be withdrawn before the money is actually in my account this month. It happened to other people last month, despite that the cheques were supposed to arrive on the 28th.

Since I'm at-risk, I haven't gone out in the last couple of weeks, I'm sure that if I were told to "call your worker" she's probably backed up with so many urgent cases, it would take days to get a return call.

I think it was some sort of Queen who said this originally - You see when confronted with a fact that people have nothing to eat, She said : "Why don't They eat cake ?" I believe They've beheaded her afterwards ...
Actually, I think the word she used actually was a type of sweet bread, but it got mistranslated at some point
Marie Antoniette. The quote was taken out of context and via translation.

If she said it she probably said something like feed them bread.
What it was, was someone told her there were peasants starving outside the palace gates, and she asked why couldn't they have some of the leftover bread and cakes (from whatever meal had just gone on).

This was translated as "they want bread? Let them eat cake."

Currently that's the attitude in my own province with the Minister of Social Services. "They can't buy their transit passes after the first? Well, let them buy them before the end of the month". She doesn't understand that many of the AISH recipients simply cannot do that because by that time they're scraping the bottom of the barrel.

That's the situation in Edmonton and Calgary. I don't take regular transit here because it's impossible to get to safely, plus there's no guarantee of anywhere to sit. There are senior/handicapped spaces reserved, but all too often those are taken up with young women with gigantic baby "strollers" the size of shopping carts. I've seen these women carrying their kids while keeping the "strollers" filled with their diaper bags, snacks, coats, blankets, toys, and groceries or other shopping. That's not what these spaces are meant for.

Thank goodness I don't need to worry about buying a pass. The rides are paid for piecemeal when you take them, either by ticket or the drivers take cash (no change provided).

Heh. The military won't support overthrowing the government.
They did in Rome. That's how Claudius became Emperor. And for a long time after, it was the army that chose the Emperor.
 
I think we'll just expand current programs like food stamps and let them go to grocery stores. Our school district continues to distribute breakfasts and lunches to families on those programs for their kids. If you're out of work you basically need enough money to cover rent, food and some minimum amount for everything else- clothing, toothpaste etc. We have food programs, we have unemployment for the other stuff, we probably need a housing assistance program so government can just cover people's mortgages until they can recover their income. Or at least put payments on pause indefinitely.

Yeah I don't see a great depression 2.0.

Our government's crunched the numbers and are expecting late 80s levels of unemployment.

Government hoarded money in the great depression. They'll borrow or print it short term.

They can't do that long term but they probably won't need to.

US might be hit harder though but even the GoPs aware enough that they need to spend up.

I'm leaning towards worse than 80/early 90s not as bad as 30s.
 
They work at places like Starbucks and make and mix fancy coffees, often with a decorative swirl or other image on top. The terms for the different coffees regarding sizes and ingredients are some pretentious hodgdpodge that I have never needed to know since I'm not a coffee drinker.

I know what they are, but I'm just not exactly sure how they classify as 'essential' workers.
 
They work at places like Starbucks and make and mix fancy coffees, often with a decorative swirl or other image on top. The terms for the different coffees regarding sizes and ingredients are some pretentious hodgdpodge that I have never needed to know since I'm not a coffee drinker.


Nobody is in the office here now, except security. And even then I don't see them around much (saw one of them the other night; he was surprised to see me in the hallway and I told him I was going to check my mail - a normal thing for me to do at 2 am if I'm awake and wanting to go for a walk). So he said okay and carried on.

The manager mentioned that there are several vacant suites in the building that are being repainted - so that's what maintenance is doing these days. They're all upstairs so during the day when the home care people aren't here for their visits, I don't tend to see anyone.


This balcony clapping is also done in Italy and Spain, and there are areas there where people take musical instruments out and give each other concerts. They're still social distancing, but people have to do these things to stay mentally healthy.


When you do find it, lob it at Jason Kenney and his cabinet. That might wake them up.


Just beware of some online schools; make sure they're affiliated with brick-and-mortar institutions, because some of these online ones are nothing more than diploma mills (as are some of the physical "charter" schools; students have reported being given very few actual meaningful assignments and nobody ever fails).


Alberta's first fatality was a doctor in his '60s who is now dead because he - get this - attended a curling bonspiel for doctors (dentists?). This was when people were told "no groups of over 250 people and no groups of over 50 if anyone attending is at-risk, from out of the country, senior, or who works in an essential service.

Well, the only restriction these idiots didn't break was the "foreign" part. So now they're all in isolation, one's dead, and they've spread it to their families, patients, other health workers,... [pissed]

Forcing the at-risk into isolation for that long a time would result in violence and suicide for some.


The Education minister in my province promised that every student will get a passing grade and all Grade 12 students will get the marks they need in the subjects required for college/university entrance. How she's going to make that happen, who knows?

This has resulted in some kids refusing to do the schoolwork brought home for them, or to bother with online classes (we're going to pass anyway, so why can't I just play games and watch TV?)

The people already home-schooling are sitting back and laughing, as they don't have much to make in the way of adjustments.


Anyone who ever wanted to design games to teach certain subjects should go ahead, as they'll probably be used now.

I've never tried Civ IV.


Would you not agree that reversing the decision about the date of the AISH payments would help a great deal? I'm scared to death my rent payment might be withdrawn before the money is actually in my account this month. It happened to other people last month, despite that the cheques were supposed to arrive on the 28th.

Since I'm at-risk, I haven't gone out in the last couple of weeks, I'm sure that if I were told to "call your worker" she's probably backed up with so many urgent cases, it would take days to get a return call.




What it was, was someone told her there were peasants starving outside the palace gates, and she asked why couldn't they have some of the leftover bread and cakes (from whatever meal had just gone on).

This was translated as "they want bread? Let them eat cake."

Currently that's the attitude in my own province with the Minister of Social Services. "They can't buy their transit passes after the first? Well, let them buy them before the end of the month". She doesn't understand that many of the AISH recipients simply cannot do that because by that time they're scraping the bottom of the barrel.

That's the situation in Edmonton and Calgary. I don't take regular transit here because it's impossible to get to safely, plus there's no guarantee of anywhere to sit. There are senior/handicapped spaces reserved, but all too often those are taken up with young women with gigantic baby "strollers" the size of shopping carts. I've seen these women carrying their kids while keeping the "strollers" filled with their diaper bags, snacks, coats, blankets, toys, and groceries or other shopping. That's not what these spaces are meant for.

Thank goodness I don't need to worry about buying a pass. The rides are paid for piecemeal when you take them, either by ticket or the drivers take cash (no change provided).


They did in Rome. That's how Claudius became Emperor. And for a long time after, it was the army that chose the Emperor.

Rome was very decentralized and the local governor/general could raise their own income.

Even apple/Amazon can afford the US military.

They'll put down any revolts if need be, probably with a bit more gusto vs some groups.

Things have to become so bad the military won't support the government and I don't see that happening.
 
Getting back on track, I’m wondering if there will be long-term shifts towards more domestic manufacturing in general. Not just from the coronavirus but also that robotics seems to be the wave of the future in replacing the menial labor that we currently outsource to the third world. Their wages are rising and automation is becoming cheaper, so why not move that production back?

No need for automation, tariffs can do that just fine. Were people not complaining about unemployment?

The only intelligent journalist in the UK tory newspaper is doing his warnings to the government there, but he'll probably be ignored:

The British state can afford to spend whatever it takes to cover lost wages, keep companies afloat, and hold the economy together through the Covid-19 crisis. There is no debt constraint.

To deny funding on the basis of primitive accounting shibboleths is to repeat the errors of post-Lehman austerity strategy but on a greater scale, and with more calamitous effects.
[...]
To take the route of passive liquidation – on the basis of Schumpeterian gobbledygook or sovereign debt phobia as some Tory hardliners seem to prefer – is self-evidently untenable. The Government would end up having to nationalise the economy. We would end up sliding into socialism, one disaster after another, week after week, until we reach Corbynism by default and by defaults.
[...]
The Government seemed to imagine that it could let British residents die at a much faster rate than in other comparable democracies in the first wave without provoking a ferocious popular and political reaction, and without untold damage to our international reputation. It seemed to think that testing the NHS to destruction was "doable".
[...]
Old rules do not apply in a world of excess capital, zero rates and chronic deflation. In any case, the UK borrows in its own currency and has sovereign policy instruments. There is no credit risk.
[...]
If this Government commits a second great mistake it will surrender our political system to a proto-revolutionary assault by others waiting to take advantage. If I may borrow from Franklin Roosevelt in his inaugural address: “The nation asks for action, and action now.”

Just as in the end all governments had to close borders, but only after causing damage through their resistance to action, so they will have to nationalize much of the economy after refusing to take action and causing a lot of damage.
(of course, I see nothing wrong with changing economic model away from the failing liberalism, but would rather see it done without the damage)
 
They work at places like Starbucks and make and mix fancy coffees, often with a decorative swirl or other image on top. The terms for the different coffees regarding sizes and ingredients are some pretentious hodgdpodge that I have never needed to know since I'm not a coffee drinker.


Nobody is in the office here now, except security. And even then I don't see them around much (saw one of them the other night; he was surprised to see me in the hallway and I told him I was going to check my mail - a normal thing for me to do at 2 am if I'm awake and wanting to go for a walk). So he said okay and carried on.

The manager mentioned that there are several vacant suites in the building that are being repainted - so that's what maintenance is doing these days. They're all upstairs so during the day when the home care people aren't here for their visits, I don't tend to see anyone.


This balcony clapping is also done in Italy and Spain, and there are areas there where people take musical instruments out and give each other concerts. They're still social distancing, but people have to do these things to stay mentally healthy.


When you do find it, lob it at Jason Kenney and his cabinet. That might wake them up.


Just beware of some online schools; make sure they're affiliated with brick-and-mortar institutions, because some of these online ones are nothing more than diploma mills (as are some of the physical "charter" schools; students have reported being given very few actual meaningful assignments and nobody ever fails).


Alberta's first fatality was a doctor in his '60s who is now dead because he - get this - attended a curling bonspiel for doctors (dentists?). This was when people were told "no groups of over 250 people and no groups of over 50 if anyone attending is at-risk, from out of the country, senior, or who works in an essential service.

Well, the only restriction these idiots didn't break was the "foreign" part. So now they're all in isolation, one's dead, and they've spread it to their families, patients, other health workers,... [pissed]

Forcing the at-risk into isolation for that long a time would result in violence and suicide for some.


The Education minister in my province promised that every student will get a passing grade and all Grade 12 students will get the marks they need in the subjects required for college/university entrance. How she's going to make that happen, who knows?

This has resulted in some kids refusing to do the schoolwork brought home for them, or to bother with online classes (we're going to pass anyway, so why can't I just play games and watch TV?)

The people already home-schooling are sitting back and laughing, as they don't have much to make in the way of adjustments.


Anyone who ever wanted to design games to teach certain subjects should go ahead, as they'll probably be used now.

I've never tried Civ IV.


Would you not agree that reversing the decision about the date of the AISH payments would help a great deal? I'm scared to death my rent payment might be withdrawn before the money is actually in my account this month. It happened to other people last month, despite that the cheques were supposed to arrive on the 28th.

Since I'm at-risk, I haven't gone out in the last couple of weeks, I'm sure that if I were told to "call your worker" she's probably backed up with so many urgent cases, it would take days to get a return call.




What it was, was someone told her there were peasants starving outside the palace gates, and she asked why couldn't they have some of the leftover bread and cakes (from whatever meal had just gone on).

This was translated as "they want bread? Let them eat cake."

Currently that's the attitude in my own province with the Minister of Social Services. "They can't buy their transit passes after the first? Well, let them buy them before the end of the month". She doesn't understand that many of the AISH recipients simply cannot do that because by that time they're scraping the bottom of the barrel.

That's the situation in Edmonton and Calgary. I don't take regular transit here because it's impossible to get to safely, plus there's no guarantee of anywhere to sit. There are senior/handicapped spaces reserved, but all too often those are taken up with young women with gigantic baby "strollers" the size of shopping carts. I've seen these women carrying their kids while keeping the "strollers" filled with their diaper bags, snacks, coats, blankets, toys, and groceries or other shopping. That's not what these spaces are meant for.

Thank goodness I don't need to worry about buying a pass. The rides are paid for piecemeal when you take them, either by ticket or the drivers take cash (no change provided).


They did in Rome. That's how Claudius became Emperor. And for a long time after, it was the army that chose the Emperor.

Look ! It was a woman allright ! History got plenty of maan being so super crazy !! Henry the eight ! Especially do not want to use roman numerals with this fudger! or Luis the XVI !! All being baby boys , unfit for rule ! History is being full of fudging man who think that they got it - spit !!!!
 
Rome was very decentralized and the local governor/general could raise their own income.

Even apple/Amazon can afford the US military.

They'll put down any revolts if need be, probably with a bit more gusto vs some groups.

Things have to become so bad the military won't support the government and I don't see that happening.
You don't see Trump, et. al issuing orders (executively) that would provoke rioting?

A couple of his executive orders resulted in tens of thousands of people crossing into Canada illegally because they had no faith in the U.S. government treating them fairly for asylum and refugee claims. When there are news articles here about the border closure, people ask cynically, "does that mean Roxham Road is closed, too?"

People in my province were furious enough with the government before this virus situation started. One military vet committed suicide on the steps of the Legislature at the time when the MLAs were debating a private member's bill that would exempt doctors, nurses, and pharmacists from having to refer patients seeking MAiD (medical assistance in dying) to other medical professionals. The bill would let them just walk away and not have to do so much as offer a phone number, pamphlet, or email. This is to allow them to exercise their "conscience" if they consider MAiD to be morally objectionable.

They always had the right to refuse, but would have to make a referral. This bill takes away the requirement to refer the patient.

This session was interrupted by the death outside... and the deceased had left a note decrying the government for having insufficient resources available to vets for mental health (among other things) and the federal government for not allowing MAiD for mental illness-related issues.

Look ! It was a woman allright ! History got plenty of maan being so super crazy !! Henry the eight ! Especially do not want to use roman numerals with this ****er! or Luis the XVI !! All being baby boys , unfit for rule ! History is being full of ******* man who think that they got it - spit !!!!
WTH does this even mean? :huh:

Marie Antoinette was a woman. We agree on that.
Henry VIII was a narcissist obsessed with having a legitimate male heir. Stipulated.
Louis XVI? I'm not as familiar with French history as I am with others.

Please don't react like I've just said unreasonable things. I'm interpreting this situation as it seems in light of my own situation where we have a government where the Minister of Social Services honestly could not give even half a damn that her decisions have meant evictions for some of the people she is supposed to help, and NSF charges on top of that. She displays a markedly "Let them eat cake" attitude.

In the meantime the premier is announcing all the way he plans to help everyone through this whole mess. Not one syllable for people like the disabled and low-income who also rely on Income Supports. I've said that it would really help to move the cheque-issue date back where it was, so we know the money will be there when it's time to pay rent and utilities.

You'd think I'd said something unreasonable, the way the Jason acolytes swarm around.
 
I know what they are, but I'm just not exactly sure how they classify as 'essential' workers.

Because they are food servers in places that offer take out. With bars and dine in restaurants closed outright any place that money can circulate in exchange for consumables is important.
 
You don't see Trump, et. al issuing orders (executively) that would provoke rioting?

A couple of his executive orders resulted in tens of thousands of people crossing into Canada illegally because they had no faith in the U.S. government treating them fairly for asylum and refugee claims. When there are news articles here about the border closure, people ask cynically, "does that mean Roxham Road is closed, too?"

People in my province were furious enough with the government before this virus situation started. One military vet committed suicide on the steps of the Legislature at the time when the MLAs were debating a private member's bill that would exempt doctors, nurses, and pharmacists from having to refer patients seeking MAiD (medical assistance in dying) to other medical professionals. The bill would let them just walk away and not have to do so much as offer a phone number, pamphlet, or email. This is to allow them to exercise their "conscience" if they consider MAiD to be morally objectionable.

They always had the right to refuse, but would have to make a referral. This bill takes away the requirement to refer the patient.

This session was interrupted by the death outside... and the deceased had left a note decrying the government for having insufficient resources available to vets for mental health (among other things) and the federal government for not allowing MAiD for mental illness-related issues.


WTH does this even mean? :huh:

Marie Antoinette was a woman. We agree on that.
Henry VIII was a narcissist obsessed with having a legitimate male heir. Stipulated.
Louis XVI? I'm not as familiar with French history as I am with others.

Please don't react like I've just said unreasonable things. I'm interpreting this situation as it seems in light of my own situation where we have a government where the Minister of Social Services honestly could not give even half a damn that her decisions have meant evictions for some of the people she is supposed to help, and NSF charges on top of that. She displays a markedly "Let them eat cake" attitude.

In the meantime the premier is announcing all the way he plans to help everyone through this whole mess. Not one syllable for people like the disabled and low-income who also rely on Income Supports. I've said that it would really help to move the cheque-issue date back where it was, so we know the money will be there when it's time to pay rent and utilities.

You'd think I'd said something unreasonable, the way the Jason acolytes swarm around.

I don't think hink MAiD is a reasonable demand.

Pumping more resources into helping ex veterens out Isa good thing. Soldiers are going to see some bad things.
 
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