Pre-ChaNES: Into the Void

[Fuschia]

So Demetrias' spot is open? I call it, if you don't mind, although I might not come up with anything interesting. Give me a day, if I don't come up with anything I'll not play till you open it up to more players. If that's all right, that is...

 

[Chandrasekhar]

So Demetrias' spot is open? I call it, if you don't mind, although I might not come up with anything interesting. Give me a day, if I don't come up with anything I'll not play till you open it up to more players. If that's all right, that is...

Yeah, you're properly the next reserved slot. This whole thing makes me feel rotten, but I suppose the show must go on.

 

[Fuschia]

I suppose so. Hopefully he's not to angry, but the mod has to stop things at some point. Anyways, hopefully I'll come up with something interesting. Maybe Russia, or an Islamic conglomerate...

 

[Demetrias]

Actually I am incredibly pissed. Chand put in his first post that he didn't know a lot about Scifi or international politics and that if he was being total inane to tell him. Well I told him so he kicks me. I had already change my nation, I had originally offered to take Russia if he didn't want me to do Australia and I had already offered to resign if he couldn't come up with a better way to get his space race. I wasn't the one being trouble some. If fifty years isn't enough time to develop genetic engineering which we are starting to research right now then 75 years isn't enough time to come up with an interstellar drive when there is not research anywhere in the world even working on anything like faster then light travel. In 75 years we would be lucky to be building sleep ships much less have instellar colonies with faster then light travel. If Chand kicks me for that then I don't know who this NES will survive.

 

[Fuschia]

Easily! How I love simple answers...

Anyways, Chandrasekhar is not being unreasonable. It is perfectly plausible for something incredibly strange to happen once that allows the start of the NES when it comes to inter-stellar travel. He is simply attempting to keep balance before the event so things will not run out of hand with super-techs very early. That would be how I look at it, that is. I certainly don't know if I'm right or not...

Beyond that, as I hope we'll get, I would like to create an Islamic conglomerate. What with Russia building Iran a nuclear power plant, I see it plausible that they could unite with a few of the more conservative Middle Eastern nations, although I'll have to study a little to see exactly how it happens...It will add flavor, and someone to oppose the United States and its allies in Europe. Hopefully, that is...

 

[Demetrias]

That would only happen if the Shiites got over the rest of the muslim world killing their prophet.

And my quip about the Chand was how can an NES survive if you get kick for doing what the moderator asked you to do?

 

[Chandrasekhar]

Beyond that, as I hope we'll get, I would like to create an Islamic conglomerate. What with Russia building Iran a nuclear power plant, I see it plausible that they could unite with a few of the more conservative Middle Eastern nations, although I'll have to study a little to see exactly how it happens...It will add flavor, and someone to oppose the United States and its allies in Europe. Hopefully, that is...

I was hoping that you'd make that choice. A representation of Islam on the interstellar stage should be quite spectacular. Just remember that such a true conglomerate probably won't form until later on in this 46 year period.

 

[North King]

Please stop, everyone. The moderator's decision is final in all instances. If that is not respected, we should have to bring in a Forum Moderator to settle things out, and that usually gets rather messy.

Watch this post for a nation description.

People's Republic of China
Leader: Lao Zhilan (North King)
Capital: Beijing, Earth
Government: Authoritarian Socialism
Technology: 2053; while behind the West for many decades, the ever-industrious Chinese people have caught up rapidly, and are now one of the more technologically advanced nations on the planet. They are well ahead in nuclear power (both fission and fusion), and in computer technology and security. Their manufacturing has the twin benefits of automation and a relatively cheap labor force, as well as comparatively lax environmental standards. Their space-flight program, while ahead of almost all of the world, is still lagging considerably behind the United States and Europe.
Army Stats: The army of the PRC is the largest in the world, containing both a fairly conventional wing as well as an elite strike force.
Army Description: The PRC lags in some military technology still, but have achieved parity, or perhaps superiority, in small arms. Their tanks are not the best in the world, but they are numerous enough to make up for that. The training of the average Chinese soldier leaves something to be desired, but the elite wing of their army is on par with any in the world, and even this "small" portion of the army is larger than many nations' entire militaries. Their air support has advanced by leaps and bounds, and is now one of the best in the world. The Chinese blue water navy consists primarily of carriers, AEGIS cruisers, and submarines, and is the second largest on Earth.
Navy Stats: A few reusable launch vehicles, many more rockets, and an orbiting space station.
Navy Description: The Chinese space-faring navy is not particularly large or well developed, however, the infrastructure has been neatly laid for a rapid and thorough colonization of space. Facilities are in place to take a large cargo into orbit very quickly, and there are several vehicles on hand to carry payloads out as far as the Asteroids on fairly short notice.
Total Economy: The Chinese economy is only slightly behind the American economy, and still growing.
Planets Occupied: A Part of Earth
Avg. Infrastructure: Good
Control: Strong
Total Population: 1.46 billion
Military Cap: ?
Education: Good
Avg. Safety & Health: Average
Avg. Patriotism: Superb
Projects: None
History: With a strong economy and a troubled past mostly left behind, the 2008 Olympics in Beijing were a great success. The Chinese government was only too happy to build on these successes and build relations with nations in Africa and South America; they also aligned more closely to Russia. In response to tensions in the Middle East and the United States improving their missile shield, China increased economic and political influence over Central Asia, managing to broker an important deal over the oil in Turkmenistan. Growing at an incredible pace, the Chinese economy rapidly became the largest carbon polluter on the planet, drawing the ire of many environmentalists, but allowing them to grow into a superpower. The Chinese government managed to absorb the collapsing North Korean state in 2027, though it caused high tensions with South Korea and their American allies. Otherwise, the borders remained much the same as ever, as did the diplomatic situation... The Chinese space program has successfully landed a man on the moon, as well as the rather more useful steps of a space-based observatory, a space station of their own, and robotic missions to Mars, Venus, and the Jovian moons.

 

[Swissempire]

If Chand kicks me for that then I don't know who this NES will survive.

Survey SAYS: Without Demetrias 100!!!!

Ding Ding Ding!

Anyways, since it seems that Fuschia has the spot, I would reccomend either the African Union or Russia. If you want further musings on Russia's future, don't hesistate to ask/pm me. I don't want to impose upon your play though, I'm only offering ideas on both.

A resurgent Russia would definitely provide your Europe/America counterweight though, Fusch. They're the clear cut forth major power in the world's realignment, and any wild card should be the fifth. Russia borders Central Asia, China and Europe, giving it direct connection and influence over the areas that will be undergoing some of the most change. Additionally, it has large interests in Africa.

The African Union provides an interesting federalist combination thats very realistic. Unifications(which looks likely) could be wildly successful if a stable government is in power and some sort of strong Pan-African identity takes hold in place of tribalism, which you could easily make happen in the large scope of this NES. The Afro could become very strong, and if Africa can really regain control of and exploit its own resources, then it can quickly rise to a top tier power.

Just my thoughts on the issue. I'm really dieing for a spot, or some hand in the history. If Chand can find in his benevolent soul a spot for me or my comments, I would be much oblidged, and not n00bish.

 

[Nuka-sama]

I am going to have to back out of Europe. I can't truly put my heart into it

 

[Chandrasekhar]

Survey SAYS: Without Demetrias 100!!!!

Ding Ding Ding!

Anyways, since it seems that Fuschia has the spot, I would reccomend either the African Union or Russia. If you want further musings on Russia's future, don't hesistate to ask/pm me. I don't want to impose upon your play though, I'm only offering ideas on both.

A resurgent Russia would definitely provide your Europe/America counterweight though, Fusch. They're the clear cut forth major power in the world's realignment, and any wild card should be the fifth. Russia borders Central Asia, China and Europe, giving it direct connection and influence over the areas that will be undergoing some of the most change. Additionally, it has large interests in Africa.

The African Union provides an interesting federalist combination thats very realistic. Unifications(which looks likely) could be wildly successful if a stable government is in power and some sort of strong Pan-African identity takes hold in place of tribalism, which you could easily make happen in the large scope of this NES. The Afro could become very strong, and if Africa can really regain control of and exploit its own resources, then it can quickly rise to a top tier power.

Just my thoughts on the issue. I'm really dieing for a spot, or some hand in the history. If Chand can find in his benevolent soul a spot for me or my comments, I would be much oblidged, and not n00bish.

Hum... I'll think on it, and see if I can find a way to let those not currently in charge of one of the big four influence things more directly. I think it would be hard to do without a) needlessly complexifying things, and/or b) taking too much power from the hands of the current nation leaders. I'd say that your current recommendations should certainly leave their mark anyway, though.

 

[Swissempire]

Is there someone in line in front of me for Europe?

And can i trade Europe for Russia? Or Africa?

 

[Chandrasekhar]

I am going to have to back out of Europe. I can't truly put my heart into it

It's alright, you can join in again later if you want.

Is there someone in line in front of me for Europe?

And can i trade Europe for Russia? Or Africa?

Well, Lord_Iggy, LightFang, Erik Mesoy, das, erez87, Haseri, and Frozen In Ice have expressed interest before you, in that order. I'll totally put you in as leader of Europe if they all decline, though.

 

[Swissempire]

It's alright, you can join in again later if you want.


Well, Lord_Iggy, LightFang, Erik Mesoy, das, erez87, Haseri, and Frozen In Ice have expressed interest before you, in that order. I'll totally put you in as leader of Europe if they all decline, though.

There are many honorable names up there, to which i concede ownership. Iggy or Das would be perfect IMHO.

If you decide to allow a fifth shaper though, I would love either Russia or Africa.

 

[a_propagandist]

Interested.

 

[alex994]

You forgot to list me Chand!

 

[LightFang]

I've love to be involved but I don't think I could just put the time needed to truly give it its proper justice. Maybe some sort of minor world-shaper if that's possible (probably not). But I'll definitely lurk and I'm definitely interested. I'd just need to play a minor role is all.

 

[Chandrasekhar]

You forgot to list me Chand!

Well, you wanted a more minor power, right? Now, you're not going to insult all our friendly Europeans here on CFC, are you...?

 

[alex994]

Of course not

 

[North King]

Stats edited in above. I look forward to the beginning of this in earnest.