Project SYNTHESIS

[J. pride]

Anything approximate? But more importantly whatll be on it?

 

[Linkman226]

Good question. Unfortunately I haven't planned that far ahead.

 

[Linkman226]

What do you guys think of a Sumer-->Babylonia-->Assyria system?

 

[momo1000]

Didn't Babylon come after Assyria? And if we're adding Assyria, we need Media too.

 

[J. pride]

Linkman, I was looking at python and the map and I think i might be able to do resources for you (placement, spread, spawn, etc); that is if you want me to?

BTW. Any update on the next svn release? (not to put any pressure on you or anything)

 

[Linkman226]

Didn't Babylon come after Assyria? And if we're adding Assyria, we need Media too.

You're right, it does. And Media =/= the area of Babylonia. To my knowledge Media did not acquire Mesopotamia ever.

Linkman, I was looking at python and the map and I think i might be able to do resources for you (placement, spread, spawn, etc); that is if you want me to?

BTW. Any update on the next svn release? (not to put any pressure on you or anything)

1) That'd be very nice. Thanks.

2) No clue, honestly. Sorry

 

[J. pride]

1) That'd be very nice. Thanks.

I will have it done by the end of next week (most likely before that but it depends).

2) No clue, honestly. Sorry

No need to apologize. Take you time and school (and life) comes first.

 

[Leoreth]

No, the Medes didn't conquer Mesopotamia ever. The problem with a Babylonia/Assyria rename is that they were both polities that exist parallel to each other and were major rivals.

I could see Assyria as a name for Babylonia with Niniveh as capital, though.

 

[great.taurus]

What do you guys think of a Sumer-->Babylonia-->Assyria system?

I think Sumeria and Babylonia can be two separate civs, but it would need much better implementation than in Civs in Abundance.

 

[BenZL43]

IMO Sumeria Akkadia Babylonia Assyria etc are the same civilization same cultures same peoples with different kingdom and time period?

I think it's alright since our game name is Civilization 4, not Kingdom 4...
That's one of the logical reason about Arab too.. and Chinese too..

Btw,
I'd like to suggest, if there's unlimited times a minor can be respawned,
to make the Ancient Near East more interesting,

Spawn the Seljuk minor as Hittite at 2000BC to raid Babylonia (And usually, Nineveh is already founded = Capital move to Nineveh = Assyrian Empire)..
gone
and spawn as Seljuk at the planned date with the Seljuk flag etc, ofc

 

[Leoreth]

Seljuks as Hittites? Why?

 

[Gruekiller]

I do think the Hittites should be a minor civ in DoC/Synth. They played a pretty major role in the ancient Middle East, and can be swallowed up by the Babs or Persians eventually.

 

[BenZL43]

Yeah...
Hittites play a big role in Ancient Near East..
And the dumb barbarian just can't replicate their aggressiveness, IMO

Why Seljuks? So it won't use lot of civilization slot..
And both Hittite and Seljuk live in very different time period so there won't be problem spawning and respawning them..

 

[Leoreth]

Barbarians are the prime choice to represent an aggressive civ that's not going to last long.

 

[Linkman226]

No, the Medes didn't conquer Mesopotamia ever. The problem with a Babylonia/Assyria rename is that they were both polities that exist parallel to each other and were major rivals.

I could see Assyria as a name for Babylonia with Niniveh as capital, though.

I agree about Medes, but as for Assyria, think about China- at numerous times it was split into multiple dynasties/ kingdoms vying for dominance. How's it any different?

I think Sumeria and Babylonia can be two separate civs, but it would need much better implementation than in Civs in Abundance.

I'm fairly confident that having both is pretty much impossible to balance on a world map.

IMO Sumeria Akkadia Babylonia Assyria etc are the same civilization same cultures same peoples with different kingdom and time period?

I think it's alright since our game name is Civilization 4, not Kingdom 4...
That's one of the logical reason about Arab too.. and Chinese too..

Btw,
I'd like to suggest, if there's unlimited times a minor can be respawned,
to make the Ancient Near East more interesting,

Spawn the Seljuk minor as Hittite at 2000BC to raid Babylonia (And usually, Nineveh is already founded = Capital move to Nineveh = Assyrian Empire)..
gone
and spawn as Seljuk at the planned date with the Seljuk flag etc, ofc

Hittites should be barbs, IMO.

Yeah...
Hittites play a big role in Ancient Near East..
And the dumb barbarian just can't replicate their aggressiveness, IMO

They can with numbers.

 

[OldGuard]

Sorry for changing the subject, but can anyone tell me how to build inquisitors? I understand there needs to be a holy office but for some strange reason, I can never build it regardless of what religion I have or what civilization I play as in both the 3000 BC and 600 AD scenarios.

Also why is it my Civ4 always crash a few turns after I found Taoism as the Romans? My Roman UP doesn't always trigger in Dawn of Civilization mod so could the crash be a result from that mod?

I have the latest versions of both DoC and Synthesis and I am not using the SVN version of either.

 

[BenZL43]

Is inquisitor already at non-SVN Synthesis?
*perhaps I miss something

@Linkman
Umm I mean..
From my observation..
Those horse chariot don't really attack and raid Babylonia but like patrolling around the Mesopotamia and capturing/attacking the workers/single warrior that are outside the city..
But let's try with number and see the result

 

[BenZL43]

Is inquisitor already at non-SVN Synthesis?
*perhaps I miss something

@Linkman
Umm I mean..
From my observation..
Those horse chariot don't really attack and raid Babylonia but like patrolling around the Mesopotamia and capturing/attacking the workers/single warrior that are outside the city..
But let's try with number and see the result

 

[Linkman226]

No clue what's causing this. Make sure you have the holy office and religion in that city. Can anyone else confirm this?

 

[McWinniage]

I can, same thing happens to me.