Prove: Gay marriage is unnatural

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Birdjaguar said:
Genetic mutation is 100% natural. That is how we got to where we are.

ChrTh said:
Genetic mutations ARE natural, otherwise evolution is not natural.

But, if that mutation causes that animal to be unable to reproduce? (Animals would not be like humans, if they were gay they wouldnt pursue having offspring.)
 
I don't think as humans, it matters wether Homosexuality is natural or not. Humans participate in all kinds pf "un-natural" activities all the time without any sense of guilt about violating the natural "order". Therefore the only reason for trying to prove the naturalness or un-naturalness of the act is to further an agenda, confuse the issue. Marriage enforce an unnatural act upon the participants as well, therefore the it should gay marriage is unnayural.
 
MjM said:
But, if that mutation causes that animal to be unable to reproduce? (Animals would not be like humans, if they were gay they wouldnt pursue having offspring.)
If the gene for homosexuality is/was of no value to a critter's evolutionary success, then it would/will go away. Genetics and evolutionary success are not simple. "Gay" animals might be bisexual.

I read in the WSJ today a great article about cricket sex and how males and females have evolved. He wants her to be monogamous and she wants to be promiscuous. I cannot post the link, but you should seek it out. It is part of the science journal column on the front page of lthe Marketplace section for Friday Feb 10.
 
ChrTh said:
Ok, I'll concede that perhaps the Athenians did not frown upon Homosexuality. However, I still put forth my objection to the idea that Pedastry = Homosexuality.

Either way bub, it is still male/male sex. And in my book that spells homosexuality.

mdwh said:
So you agree that bisexuality is natural?

I'm just curious - I always find it interesting that so few of the homophobes' arguments apply to bisexuality, yet it seems to be hated just as much, if not more so, bizarrely.

No, I agree that animals have no control over their sex drive. Btw, calling me a homophobe is about as silly as me calling you a heterophobe.

mdwh said:
I notice most heterosexuals seem to have a history of mental, physical, and sexual abuse. Note not all, but a lot seem too.

Heterophobe.

See how silly that sounds? And yet, if I say the exact same thing about homosexuals, you call me a homophobe.

Silly little hypocrite.
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MobBoss said:
Either way bub, it is still male/male sex. And in my book that spells homosexuality.
A rose by any other name is stil a rose. MobBoss seems to have it right.
 
I just view Gay Marrages as unnatural because Marrage is a union between a male and a female.

MobBoss said:
Heterophobe.
Certanly going into my vocabulary if anyone criticizes or bashes heterosexualty, heterosexualism, and heteronormalty :clap:.
 
VRWCAgent said:
I don't have to 'prove' jack. It's unnatural to me, and enough people feel the same way that we banned gay marriage. I couldn't care less of two guys (or gals) want to shack up, but don't expect benefits.

How about, since gay marriage would change what has been the norm in America since its founding, you prove it is natural. I'd say the burden is on you.
Why don't you want to give them benefits just because they're someone you're not thourogh no falt of their own. This is simply a facist way to think.

And it sound pretty unnatral to me to make a bond of love only avalibe to one type of people, i.e. hetrosexual couples. Why would I want to do that?

Also why do people even care what's natrual, here we are on the freakin' internet complaning that things are unnatral. Your bed is unnatral, your house is unnatral, your fridge is unnatral, you doesn't matter what's natrual or not!
 
Just because i and throwing what i know trying to prove Gay marrage is unnatural, it is a very poor arguement which merely throws at me that i am a homophobe.

Then again, i am scared when a dog humps my leg.. so perhaps i am more caninehumpobic...
 
CivGeneral said:
I just view Gay Marrages as unnatural because Marrage is a union between a male and a female.
Keep in mind, marrage was invented when people were kinda stupid. And they thought everyting was made of earth, water, wind, and fire.
 
My objection to gay marriage is family related. In the traditional man/woman marriage the children are related to both families generically. While family and clan are not as important as they once were, there are sound sociological principle undergirding the traditional version of marriage, which extend far beyond the two people involved. In a gay marriage, these things are not even possible.

J
 
onejayhawk said:
My objection to gay marriage is family related. In the traditional man/woman marriage the children are related to both families generically. While family and clan are not as important as they once were, there are sound sociological principle undergirding the traditional version of marriage, which extend far beyond the two people involved. In a gay marriage, these things are not even possible.

J
Have you forgotten adopted children? Stepchildren? "tradtional" families are nol onger the norm in America.
 
The unnatural thing is telling adults that love each other that they cant get married because it bothers you.
 
newfangle said:
Oh snap.

Bozo, I don't know what's happened to you, but your posts over the last few months have been orgasmic.
Frikking immoral intenetpostsexualists :rolleyes:
Your subhuman, immoral, unnatural tendency to come over Bozo's post means you must be cured.
 
newfangle said:
Oh snap.

Bozo, I don't know what's happened to you, but your posts over the last few months have been orgasmic.
Orgasmic??Thats a new one, Im not sure if I should be pleased or not:confused: (puts on a big yellow rain slicker)

nonconformist said:
Frikking immoral intenetpostsexualists :rolleyes:
Your subhuman, immoral, unnatural tendency to come over Bozo's post means you must be cured.
Whats up with OT today? Theres like 8 gay threads, and now this one is turning into the mens room of Studio 54 in 1981:eek:
 
(Bozo runs down the street in boxer shorts, looking back nervously as he's chased by an assortment of people from all over the world)
 
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