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Thank you! Next question - re: DOW from friendly/pleased civs:
Will a leader declare war outside their usual parameters if it is in the way of their victory condition? As in: they have conquered all but me & my vassals, so they have no one else left to attack… But we are friendly or pleased (and they don’t declare at pleased)?
It's your vassals that may be a factor on whether they may plot on you - outside normal parameters. Say it's the two of you alone marching toward victory. The AI leader does not plot at Pleased, and that leader is Pleased with you. That leader will not plot on you regardless.
Vassals on the other hand change the equation. I'm not sure the exact coded mechanics behind it but once you start nabbing vassals, even if an AI(s) are Friendly with you, the diplo changes. For example, trading and bribing becomes more troublesome.
(simple example - trading maps. All leaders have a specific level at which the will trade or not trade maps, except Toku and Lizzy who don't at all. Qin will trade maps at Friendly. Once I get a vassal he will no longer trade maps with me)
I think the way it works is that the diplo relations are combined in terms of how a leader views you, and the affected parameters associated. So head to head they may show as Friendly status but in actuality their relations are a combination of how they view you and your vassal(s).
I had a recent example in a game where I had a vassal. Rags was Friendly with me. Monty Dow'd me and was able to bribe in Rags, at Friendly. Poor little Monty, he's now my vassal and so is Rags...ha
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