The option to propose a resolution might come up if any are possible. For example, if you're the only AP member, none but the resident election will ever come up. If all members already have open borders with each other, the resolution to sign open borders won't come up. If none of the members are trading with a non-member, the resolution to stop trading with that non-member can never come up. If diplomatic victory through the AP is currently impossible because the requirements aren't met, that resolution won't come up, and so on. Fulfill the requirements, and you might get to propose resolutions.
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Yeah i get it that far thanks,
But i'm being the resident for more then 4 cenuries now, since 3 centuries ago i got all members friendly with me. What are the other requirements? Last time i won diplomatic was by accident when i killed 2 civs builded the damn AP to make sure they didn't get it (all others where coutious if i remember correctly) and then by accident i pushed diplomatic victory and i won it becaus i had the most votes by just voting on myself.
Thanks!
But i'm being the resident for more then 4 cenuries now, since 3 centuries ago i got all members friendly with me. What are the other requirements? Last time i won diplomatic was by accident when i killed 2 civs builded the damn AP to make sure they didn't get it (all others where coutious if i remember correctly) and then by accident i pushed diplomatic victory and i won it becaus i had the most votes by just voting on myself.
Thanks!
diplo victory is only possible if all civs have at least one city with the AP religion, also as of patch 3.13 it is not an option if you could vote yourself to victory...
We all got budhisme as our state religion. Although, another civ has the budhisme found. So the relegic city is in another civ's city. Would that be a problem? It must be the problem... why do i know it now?, lol. I would have captured theyre budha a long time ago.... i would have gained another 60 gold a turn and spread it to the other continent 
. Now i'm 3 turns away from UN building... Do i need corporation to win with that one? Already got 2, do i need to spread it out to the other civs?
I just installed 3.13, thats why i won that once by accident.
. Now i'm 3 turns away from UN building... Do i need corporation to win with that one? Already got 2, do i need to spread it out to the other civs?I just installed 3.13, thats why i won that once by accident.
The holy city does not matter - you most likely have too many votes then...
I get votes from all members accept the civ with the AP building....
so 3 member and myself voting for me on member ellection....
A bug? Would be realy something for me, playing first time "for real" HoF and i get screwed
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so 3 member and myself voting for me on member ellection....
A bug? Would be realy something for me, playing first time "for real" HoF and i get screwed
.Like ori said, if you yourself have enough votes that you could vote yourself to victory even if no other civ voted for you, the option to propose that resolution won't come up. How many others vote for you or not during the resident election has nothing to do with it.
Errrrr... did you and ori just said i have to play bad in order to get a higher score? I realy don't get it but it's probably to prevent abusing tactics or something.... Is there any logic in it for not being victorius when your the bigest and the friendliest?
Anyway thanks, i try to stay a small nation next time i go diplomatic victory...
Anyway thanks, i try to stay a small nation next time i go diplomatic victory...
r_rolo1
King of myself
^^You can't call a victory diplomatic if you only get votes from yourself......
I agree that the solution installed by Firaxis in 3.13 is
, but it serves the propose: finishing the Diplomatic = watered Domination victory syndrom
I agree that the solution installed by Firaxis in 3.13 is
, but it serves the propose: finishing the Diplomatic = watered Domination victory syndrom
This whole diplo victory thing is not solved in a way that I would have chosen - and there are easily half a dozen exploits in it.
But as it is now:
The Diplo victory (both AP and UN) is only available if you have less than the number of votes needed to vote yourself to victory on the turn the option to vote for should come up - the bold part is important for most of the exploits that still exist.
Anyway I believe it was meant as a means to make cheesy wins impossible - since especially the setup of the AP victory previously allowed surprise victories by any player which were questionable at best. I don't think this solution is too convincing though.
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To answer your question: no you don't need to play bad but you need to plan your victory - and in some cases not growing too big is the way to go...
It was all the fault of Gengis Khan! He wanted to attack a neighbour of my and dragged me into it and that probably made me too big. He will pay for it in my next game "Conquest" whahahaha!
Ok thnx, now i understand. But it still is a shame, if you want to be able to be elected you need to be bigest or 2nd bigest if an opponent has build the AP. But in case you want to win by Diplomatic victory you should not exceed about 60% of total members. Kinda opposite from eachother.
Cheers for clearing things up.
Ok thnx, now i understand. But it still is a shame, if you want to be able to be elected you need to be bigest or 2nd bigest if an opponent has build the AP. But in case you want to win by Diplomatic victory you should not exceed about 60% of total members. Kinda opposite from eachother.
Cheers for clearing things up.
Abegweit
Anarchist trader
It really stinks as a solution. Even if every civ on the planet would have voted for you, you can't hold an election if you don't need their votes!
Lord Parkin
aka emperor
Maybe a better solution would be requiring 60% of the votes of all other civs in the world at the time, excluding the player proposing the diplomatic victory. That sounds like a much more fair and less exploitable solution to me. Come to think of it, why didn't Firaxis do that?
Can someone please explain how flanking siege weapons works? I can't seem to figure it out...
Also, what are some of the settings you all play with for normal games? More specifically: is the game "better" with Vassal States turned off, No Tech Brokering turned on, and perhaps on Epic speed instead of Normal? I know it's really a matter of personal preference (so don't give me that answer), but are there some options that are very popular and used among the respected players?
Thanks in advance!
Also, what are some of the settings you all play with for normal games? More specifically: is the game "better" with Vassal States turned off, No Tech Brokering turned on, and perhaps on Epic speed instead of Normal? I know it's really a matter of personal preference (so don't give me that answer
), but are there some options that are very popular and used among the respected players?Thanks in advance!
Lord Parkin
aka emperor
It's personal preference.Also, what are some of the settings you all play with for normal games? More specifically: is the game "better" with Vassal States turned off, No Tech Brokering turned on, and perhaps on Epic speed instead of Normal? I know it's really a matter of personal preference (so don't give me that answer
Thanks in advance!
Seriously, I can't answer as to what's popular for most players since I don't know what most players prefer. Speaking for myself though, I usually play with Vassal States on, No Tech Brokering off, and either Epic or Marathon speed. I think quite a large number of people leave Vassal States on, except for those who are bothered by some of its minor bugs or those who prefer the original flavour of the game (without Vassal States). I have never used No Tech Brokering myself, but it rather drastically affects diplomatic options in-game, so I guess this option is not attractive for players who like to keep their diplomatic options as open as possible. Epic or Marathon speeds are more than anything a personal preference, although probably the players who are prone to micromanaging and detailed strategising will prefer the longer game lengths, as opposed to those who just like to rush through and get their 'quick fix'.
In the end, just play the game how you like to play it, regardless of what other people think. The quickest way to stop enjoying the game is to play it like everyone else says they're playing it just because you think you should.
djvandrake
Prince
Please forgive this really N00b question. I've been reading the strategy discussions, and people keep using the term "REXing" What is this?
To REX or not to REX, I don't understand the question.....
To REX or not to REX, I don't understand the question.....
Lord Parkin
aka emperor
REX - Rapid Early eXpansionPlease forgive this really N00b question. I've been reading the strategy discussions, and people keep using the term "REXing" What is this?
To REX or not to REX, I don't understand the question.....
You might find this link useful.
In the end, just play the game how you like to play it, regardless of what other people think. The quickest way to stop enjoying the game is to play it like everyone else says they're playing it just because you think you should.
Trust me, I've played Civ long enough to know that. I just wanted to get a general idea...I think I might try an Epic game now that I have a few BtS ones under my belt. Thanks as always, Lord Parkin.
GA: I've only really played Civ4 for the last couple months (since I got laid off), but I find I like the speed of Epic better than "Normal".
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