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Discussion in 'Civ4 - Fall from Heaven' started by retro V, Aug 22, 2006.

  1. retro V

    retro V Prince

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    WARNING, ANSWERS MAY BE POSTED BELOW.

    Just in case you wanted to test your own knowledge before seeing the answers. I ask anyone who wants a go at this to post their answers in spoiler tags, if you know how, so as to give the next readers a fair chance. Any other comments may remain visible, of course.

    Anyway, what am I on about? :crazyeye:

    Well, I finished (retired) my first game of FfH2. My leadership skills were on a par with Tweedledee. But who the hell were the rest of those guys on that list?



    I got some of them, quite a few actually, shows what a geek I am no doubt.

    How many references to fantasy fiction can you identify?

    OP and affiliates of FfH2 design team exempt from competition.
    All registered trademarks, copyrights and other legal stuff are not yours, they belong to someone else, someone with more money and lawyers than you or I, and are duly noted.
    There is no prize, except maybe title of Biggest Bookworm/Nerd.


    And if I may ask again, if at all possible, please post your answers in spoiler tags. Wouldn't be any fun otherwise.
     
  2. Kael

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    [tab]I don't know who 3 of them are, I just trusted the team when they said they are cool fantasy figures. So 17 out of 20 for me, and I consider myself a pretty big fantasy nerd.

    [tab]Here's the list of all the ones I know:

    Spoiler :

    Cthulhu- One of Lovecrafts greatest creations. Anyone who can appear on t-shirts with the saying "my god can beat up your god" and as a lovable plush toy is okay by me.

    Lord Asriel- Dont know.

    Belgarath- Hero of the Belgariad. A series written by David Eddings.

    Rand Al'Thor- Main character of the Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan.

    Raistlin Majere- Mage the Dragonlance series by Margeret Weis and Tracy Hickman. I actually read the 2nd book in this series in one day I loved it so much. We had a lot of talk about who should represent this series. Personally I would have preferred Tasslehoff but I had to agree with the team when they pointed out that Tasselhoff is cool, but not much of a leader.
    [tab]The most influential series for my D&D game was another Weis and Hickman creation, the Death Gate cycle. It was so pervasive (aka: I stole so many concepts from it) that my players were forbidden from reading it. What impressed me most was the the world detail. The series actually has footnotes on a lot of the pages, little details about aspects of the world and culture. That detail was what I wanted to make, and most of the reason the FfH is as detailed as it is. There are still a few details from those books that have survived all the translations and are in the mod. Most notably the Nexus wonder is a place in the Death Gate cycle, and the whole story of the Bannor is taken from the backstory of the series were the protagonists people were trapped and escaped from a deadly laberinth.

    Aslan- The giant lion in the Chronicles of Narnia series. Many people don't know that CS Lewis (the series author) was a christian author and Aslan was a metaphor for christ. It is more than just a symbolic link, the tale of Aslan is a direct retelling of the story of christ. And CS Lewis's attempt to indoctroniate/entertain children with the story of christ.

    Tyrion- Dont know.

    Cloud- The hero of Final Fantasy VII, one of my favorite video games and one of the first examples of the genres ability to tell a story with resonence.

    Elric- Protagonist of the Meliborune saga by Michael Moorcock.


    Fin MacCool- Dont know.

    Pug- Protagonist of the Magician series by Raymond Feist.

    Tim the Enchanter- Woot! The fireball flinging character of Monty Python and the Quest for the Holy Grail.

    Minsc- One of the characters in the Baldurs Gate video game. He was a crazed warrior with a pet space hampster named Boo! Somehow Minsc seems alone on the list without Boo.

    Link- The actual name of the hero in the Zelda games (in a bit of confusing marketing Zelda is actually the name of the hero Link is usually questing for).

    Roderick Usher- I think Chalid came up with this one to class up our list a little. It is from the Fall of the House of User by Edgar Allen Poe.

    Guybrush Threepwood- The team indulged me with this. Guybrush is the hero of the Monkey Island video games.

    Sir Robin- Another character from Monty Pythin and the Quest for the Holy Grail.

    Tweedledee- From Lewis Carroll's Through the Looking Glass.
     
  3. Nimbus

    Nimbus Prince

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    Only know 15 out of 20 myself and I thought I was a fantasy nerd
     
  4. Chandrasekhar

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    Alright, I'll take a stab at it.
    Spoiler :

    Cthulhu- something to do with a horror/fantasy type thingamabob? I know I've heard of it...
    Lord Asriel- no idea
    Belgarath- likewise
    Rand Al'Thor- I believe the proper spelling is "al'Thor," no capitalization :p. Wheel of Time hero (I won't say any more for fear of spoiling it for people who haven't read through the series)
    Raistlin Majere- gazundheit
    Aslan- isn't this the name of that lion from the Chronicles of Narnia?
    Tyrion Lannister- no idea, but a catchy sounding name...
    Cloud- LOL BIG SR0WD!!! Heh, I loved that game... ought to bust it out again.
    Elric- sounds vaguely Elfish
    Fin MacCool- what's this, a talking fish?
    Pug- these dogs look fugly. Is this referring to a different context?
    Tim the Enchanter- don't know, but he must not be that bright if he can't think of a better name for himself
    Ozma- the big colorful globe-boss in FFIX? The first organized search for ET? Not sure.
    Tom Bombadil- Ho! Tom Bombadil, Tom Bombadil-lo! Something like that, right?
    Minsc- looks more like a typo than a name
    Link- another hero that seems to lose all his equipment between adventures. The other is Samus
    Roderick Usher- sounds familiar...
    Guybrush Threepwood- poor guy couldn't grow a beard... liked the pirate insult mini-game though. That, and "Hey, look! A three-headed monkey!"
    Sir Robin- Eh?


    I didn't know a whole lot of them, but I tried...
     
  5. Silverkiss

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    lol i only know 2 out of 20 !! but I like fantasy, but i dont go reading books and stuff about it, I prefer to create my own storyes :crazyeye:

    oops actually i know 4
     
  6. Nimbus

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    anyone else see that list and think "what, no Drizz't?" hehe
     
  7. retro V

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    Not all of them are from books. Some are from games. Some are from movie adaptations of books.

    I'll come clean, I only got 8. But now I've seen some answers I could be wrong about one.
     
  8. Silverkiss

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    Hey im not much a fantasy gamer too... didnt play any Final Fantasy, for example... (i know, shame on me)
     
  9. Nimbus

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    my attempt

    Spoiler :

    Cthulhu- Lovecraft
    Lord Asriel- Pullmans His dark materials
    Belgarath- eddings the belgariard
    Rand Al'Thor- wheel of time
    Raistlin Majere- Dragonlance (Yea)
    Aslan- Chronicles of Narnia
    Tyrion Lannister- no idea
    Cloud- FFH VII.
    Elric- Moorcock
    Fin MacCool- celtic hero
    Pug- of midkemia
    Tim the Enchanter- monty python
    Ozma- dont know
    Tom Bombadil- LOTR
    Minsc- no idea
    Link- zelda
    Roderick Usher- dont know
    Guybrush Threepwood- don't know
    Sir Robin- monty python
    Tweddledee- Alice in wonder land
     
  10. retro V

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    Spoiler :
    Belgarath, really old wizard, grandfather of the hero family from David Eddings' books (can't remember the name of the series or their titles).

    Raistlin Majere, thought he was the sorcerous evil twin brother from the Dragonlance series, never heard of 'Gazundheit'.

    Aslan, pussycat from Narnia, but now I'm thinking it's got a 'd' in it somewhere, like Asnand, maybe.

    Cloud, Cloud Strife, who else? FFVII.

    Pug, the young boy that grew into the most powerful wizard ever then changed his name, from Raymond E. Feist's Wizard.

    Tom Bombadil, weirdo with the fit daughter in Fellowship of the Rings, Tolkien's version only. Never made it into the 3 hour movie.

    Minsc, had a rat named Boo, Baldur's Gate.

    Link, excuuuuuuuuuuuuse me Princess.

    Tweedledee, Tweedledum's equally rotund brother from Alice through the Looking Glass, or In Wonderland as Walt Disney would have us believe.
     
  11. Firestrom

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    Tyrion Lannister is from A game of Thrones (Book by George R.R. Martin)
     
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    Fin MacCool is the greatest ass kicker to ever be found in a book. :)

    I might have known 10 of them
     
  13. Nikis-Knight

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    Chand didn't know sir Robin? Brave, brave sir Robin? Who had nearly wet himself at the battle of something or other? When danger reared its ugly head, he bravely turned his tail and fled, oh brave brave braaaaaave brave sir Robin?

    One hundred spankings for you!
     
  14. Chandrasekhar

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    Doesn't that name sound like a sneeze to you? Maybe I spelled it wrong. Any German majors here?

    Edit: No, Knight, I didn't know...
     
  15. Silverkiss

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    I knew i remenbered Minsc from somewhere !
     
  16. retro V

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    For all I know, Gazundheit is Deustch for Dragonlance. But I thought german composite nouns were, like, 50+ letters long.

    Julius, you just made Boo very angry!
     
  17. Joosty

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    A dissappointing 8, acutally 9, out of 20!! I'm a bit ashamed as it is not for want of reading...
    It might be 10, if....

    Spoiler :
    Cthulu. No brainer: one by Philip Howard Lovecraft who started the whole cthulu mythos

    Belgarath: David Eddings (and Leigh Eddings), the sorcerer who serves the god Aldur in the book series the Belgariad and Mallorean

    Tom Bombadil: do your basics-> LotR, crazy forest dweller

    Minsc: is this the baldur's gate 1 and 2 berserker with a miniature giant space hamster? I think it is!

    Tim the Enchanter: this one is a monthy python character from "the quest for the holy grail movie", knows fire spells

    Sir Robin, a nice Eric Idle in the same movie as a cowardly knight of the round table.

    Pug: the original name of the magician Milamber in Raymond E. Feists Magician. Main character.

    Elric: of Melniboné? By Michael Moorcock. Wielding the parasitical sword stormbringer

    Tyrion Lannister: of all the characters in the song of Ice and Fire... they take this one. Why not one of the Starks?

    Is Link from the zelda game? prolly not :/


    Shame Kael, you haven't read the George R.R. Martin!
     
  18. upthorn

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    Spoiler :

    Cthulhu - elder god/cuttlefish who will eat the world when he awakens
    Lord Asriel - Lyra's father in His Dark Materials trilogy by Phillip Pullman - leads a successful revolution against the tyranny of God. (And also the name of the angel of death, as I recall)
    Belgarath - The 5000 year old sorceror from David Eddings' fantasy epics "The Belgariad" and "The Mallorean" (Why isn't this Belgarion, the main hero of the epic?)
    Rand Al'Thor - Rand son of Thor. The Dragon Reborn, destined to lead the forces of the Light at Tarmon Gai'don
    Raistlin Majere - don't know
    Tyrion Lannister - don't know
    Cloud - Cloud Strife. If you've ever heard of Final Fantasy, this seems to have been the most popular hero of the series.
    Elric - Of the Elric saga, which I haven't actually read, but my ex-girlfriend did.
    Fin MacCool - Don't know
    Pug - Don't know
    Tim the Enchanter - Throws fireballs around all willy-nilly and leads the Knights of the Round Table to their ill-fated encounter with the rabbit.
    Ozma - Ruler of the land of Oz.
    Tom Bombadil - The hobbits encounter him in the forest outside the shire. They have lunch, or such together. Statements imply that Tom Bombadil has godlike powers, but chooses not to use them.
    Minsc - the best friend of Boo, the miniature giant space hamster. One of his quick-item slots can never be used, because boo is there.
    Link - he come to town, he came to save, the princess zelda
    Roderick Usher - I swear I've seen that name before, but I don't know where.
    Guybrush Threepwood - Hero of Monkey Island
    (brave) Sir Robin - ran away
    Tweedledee - If you don't know this, explain to me how you have grown up in this era without learning the story of Alice in Wonderland.
     
  19. QES

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    I'm glad SOMEONE got this, as it happens to be one of the most powerfuly written dramas that dabble in fantastic settings I know. And tyrion, the stunted dwarf is the coolest.

    On A song of Ice and Fire... (Which has Tyrion in it)

    Read this. THis is a gritty book. It takes your assumptions about fantasy and chucks them out the nearest window.

    Good guys aren't always good, bad guys aren't always bad, you learn to root for the a**hole. You pity the pretty, you yearn for blood and vengence more than honor or nobility, and lastly but not least, he (the writer) kills the characters you love with wonton disregard to your feelings. It's great.

    For Informational purposes. ASoI&F (A song of Ice and Fire) is:
    *A setting of Low Magic (Magic is VERY rare, VERY powerful, and VERY mysterious)
    *A Setting resembling Medival Europe's Dark Ages (not golden shinining renesiance)
    *Creates a very personlized feeling, the events of the world affect the characters more than vica versa - though it IS very dynamic.
    *Currently 4 books in length of the series, scheduled (assumed) to be 7 total upon completion.
    *Story Revolves around multiple characters at very different places at any given "moment" though time is not calculated normally. Chapters are not always done chronologically, and there are no chapter titles, each chapter title is a Name, that Name is the current character whos experiances you partake in - overlaping happens alot.
    *You WILL throw the book across the room at one point if you read it.
    *It will make you angry.
    *It will make you sad.
    *It will make you slaver for more.

    -Qes

    P.s. "And then she woke up blind." :(

    EDIT: TItles of books are as follows.
    1 - A game of thrones.
    2 - A Clash of Kings
    3 - A Storm of Swords
    4 - A Feast for Crows
    5 (not yet out) - A Dance of Dragons
     
  20. TheBladeRoden

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    Spoiler :
    Cthulhu is that octopus head guy
    Cloud is from Final Fantasy
    Tim and Sir Robin are from Monty Python's Holy Grail
    Ozma is from Return to Oz
    Link is from the Legend of Zelda
    Guybrush is from Escape From Monkey Island
    Tweedledee is from Alice in Wonderland


    that's all I got
     

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