Random Rants : Bloody hell!

[Zack]

It's certainly cheaper and, imo, a lot more effective in the long run, but probably takes longer, to do the job yourself.

This is dangerous advice to give

 

[Borachio]

Well, true.

But if professional help is unavailable (which it very often is), what's the alternative?

Also. I'll give you a brand new shiny pound for every person you can produce who takes anything I say seriously.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Also. I'll give you a brand new shiny pound for every person you can produce who takes anything I say seriously.

Zach, I seriously suggest not taking that offer seriously.

 

[Hygro]

Yeah. I could never afford to go down the professional help route either.

It's certainly cheaper and, imo, a lot more effective in the long run, but probably takes longer, to do the job yourself.

Start with plenty of vigorous exercise, is my advice.

And take up a hobby. Preferably one where you can meet people.

That is probably the only way to solo it. I disagree it's "a lot more effective in the long run".

 

[Borachio]

You may be right.

It's just that I've met a lot of people whose experience of professional help has been less than optimal too.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

The definition of the word "professional" does not include the word "skilled." It is certainly possible to be both, but should not be assumed.

 

[Hygro]

You may be right.

It's just that I've met a lot of people whose experience of professional help has been less than optimal too.

There's 2 confounders that come to mind:
1) Those who seek it are more likely to be a lot more "less than optimal" so it may be an issue of self selection. Those who would "turn out better in the long run" were already those who needed less help to begin with.
2) Mental health treatment has come a long way particularly thanks to the Internet. In the USA there's a shortage of therapy to go with the prescription drug side of it which is a downside.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Myself and a bunch of buddies are all struggling to find work. I have a pretty kick-ass list of companies to apply to (in other words I know of a lot of random companies no one else thinks of) and I freely share it with my friends. I even start a google sheets page to track job openings and such and share it with them. All I ask is that they contribute to it. Do they? Nope.

I have another friend that asked for a specific contact at a company and I gave it to him. I then asked him to put in a good word for me to a professor he's close with at the university so I can get a part-time gig while job hunting, he says he would do it for me, no problem. Did he? Nope. (I did get the gig on my own)

That same friend currently has a job programming at home for a certain west coast rocket manufacturer. His wife hates the west coast and doesn't want him to go back there after graduation. I know them pretty well and I just the other day I started thinking I should write his wife a really nice letter explaining I know him very well and that he doesn't want to move to the West Coast either but would leverage that job experience to land his dream job in a few years and move away from the coast. Almost like a personal character reference letter to his wife about her husband kind of thing.

Then I remembered that he never put in a good word for me and also uses the google sheet I made but doesn't contribute.

TIL I am a naturally nice guy and have to stop going out of my way to help dickbag friends


Rant 2 -

I'm a kick ass engineer with a lot of good experience but I still haven't got even a nibble from companies. I guess it's my GPA (which is a 3.0) that's holding me back.

 

[JohannaK]

We all want to see you on TV talking about a massive space thing you've designed. I believe in you.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Thanks dude, I needed that.

 

[JohannaK]

Even if there's nothing else I can do, there's nothing that I shouldn't stop doing. We've seen you along these last few years go through college and we've heard so much of what you've gone through, we need to see the happy ending to your journey.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Aww shucks dude thanks again

 

[The_J]

Might be the busiest week of the whole year (okay...probably not, because I will need to defend this year), and I am sick.
Decided to sleep longer today, because I can just book in holidays afterwards, and I am not feeling that well, but can't book sick, since the evening is full ^^. Did that, just remembered now that we had a project meeting in the early morning. Good that nobody really expected me to be there ^^.

 

[Borachio]

There's 2 confounders that come to mind:
1) Those who seek it are more likely to be a lot more "less than optimal" so it may be an issue of self selection. Those who would "turn out better in the long run" were already those who needed less help to begin with.
2) Mental health treatment has come a long way particularly thanks to the Internet. In the USA there's a shortage of therapy to go with the prescription drug side of it which is a downside.

I don't disagree.

But I would suggest that those who find their own way through their mental difficulties themselves (let's say) are more likely to find some kind of long term resilience since they've not had the "advantage" of professional help, which can (though not necessarily does) induce some kind of dependence mentality.

Although it's also likely to take them longer to find their way, I will agree.

Of course, in the case of extreme psychotism self-help is unlikely to be effective. (But most mental difficulties are things everyone suffers from from time to time, like mild depression.)

And if you're parading the streets wielding an axe while talking to dust particles, it's unlikely that you're ever going to need to seek out help at all. Since it's quite likely the help will find you one way or another.

 

[Cutlass]

I don't disagree.

But I would suggest that those who find their own way through their mental difficulties themselves (let's say) are more likely to find some kind of long term resilience since they've not had the "advantage" of professional help, which can (though not necessarily does) induce some kind of dependence mentality.

Although it's also likely to take them longer to find their way, I will agree.

Of course, in the case of extreme psychotism self-help is unlikely to be effective. (But most mental difficulties are things everyone suffers from from time to time, like mild depression.)

And if you're parading the streets wielding an axe while talking to dust particles, it's unlikely that you're ever going to need to seek out help at all. Since it's quite likely the help will find you one way or another.

Finding long term resilience is not the same thing as getting healthy and having a good life. Someone may learn to be functional. But it's a low level of functional, and there's no joy or real success in it.

 

[s0nny80y]

south china sea should be collectively renamed by the asean nations plus the rest

 

[s0nny80y]

its not like gitmo prisoners are trying to break out to cuba

 

[Lohrenswald]

What are you trying to get at?

 

[Zack]

What are you trying to get at?

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

 

[gay_Aleks]

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