Really, really bad Great Plains map

[bradleyfeanor]

I was playing around with the different map styles just to get a feel for them, and after three resource-poor starts had come to the conclusion that Great Plains maps had fewer resources than other maps. Then on the fourth try I got this...

Those Floodplain/cow tiles are 4 food before improvements.
Guess I should have paid more attention to those discussions in high school on sample size and statistical significance.

 

[Bushface]

Old Mahatma had a farm
E-i-e-i-o
And on that farm he had a cow
And another, and another, and another ...

Better go for Animal Husbandry, really fast.

 

[Mrdie]

Old Mahatma had a farm
E-i-e-i-o
And on that farm he had a cow
And another, and another, and another ...

Better go for Animal Husbandry, really fast.

But you forget, you can't kill cows in India! (From what I know, it's a religious belief)

 

[Bluemofia]

Oh, this is Civ. Just don't be Hindu.

 

[Bushface]

What are you beefing about ? Who said you had to kill them ? Ever heard of dairy farming ? Nor is "leather" a tradeable resource, though it is essential for Spy costumes.

 

[bradleyfeanor]

Oh, this is Civ. Just don't be Hindu.

As luck would have it...

At last count there were 18 Moo Cows near my start, and I still have more exploring to do. They run about the land like squirrels.

And it is quite a sight to see them scampering along the branches.

 

[Caprice]

Holy crap!!

 

[joasoze]

I quit playing great plains after a few experiences like this. I once counted 21 cows among the first 23 resources I discovered. Its just plain boring.

 

[Velvet-Glove]

What a shame you can't generate a Great Cheesemaker and trade some nice Camembert or yogurt with your neighbours in exchange for copper, you could have a thriving business with your plentiful cows.

Lassi, anyone?

 

[Ogrelord]

why is it so surprising to have so many cows?

In North America, "cow country" is the Midwest from the State of Texas to the Province of Alberta. In the Great Plains map, there is always mountain regions to the left. i always thought it was the Rockies.

 

[Steph]

And how many cows did the native americans domesticated in 4000 BC?

 

[Wodan]

And how many cows did the native americans domesticated in 4000 BC?

They didn't start with animal husbandry, obviously.

Wodan

 

[Steph]

They didn't start with animal husbandry, obviously.

Wodan

That's one of the flaws of the civ series.... You should not discover cows because you discover animal husbandry. You should be able to discover animal husbandry because you have cows.
Unless traded from another civ

 

[Frostyboy]

I am playing now on a great plain and I think I have 6 cows on one city alone. But regarding other rescources - I wasn't able to get neither marble nor stone

 

[Palantir30]

And how many cows did the native americans domesticated in 4000 BC?

Thousands. They were a little hairier than modern cows, and the Natives definitely favored the "free range" method over small pens like we keep them.

What surprises me though is I see no horses in the screenshot. I play plains a lot and I like the map (even if I dont start in the Cowpens). Usually horses and cows roam the same general area on the map. the trouble with the Cow start is that you have a lot of cow, but you dont get many other food resources. You might get a wheat if your're lucky, but even if you do, you still have to trade off a cow to every other Civ in the game in order to get the corn, deer, pigs, sheep, etc that only appear in places far away from your Cow Chipyard.

 

[Meffy]

At last count there were 18 Moo Cows near my start, and I still have more exploring to do. They run about the land like squirrels.

And it is quite a sight to see them scampering along the branches.

Yeah, but you should see what they do to the bird feeders. Hey, you -- get away from that finch seed! *wields broom*

 

[arcan]

What a shame you can't generate a Great Cheesemaker and trade some nice Camembert or yogurt with your neighbours in exchange for copper, you could have a thriving business with your plentiful cows.

Lassi, anyone?

Playing french, you could have a special unit "stinky chees throwers" that could be unstoppable until bacteriological war and dirty weapons are banned by a UN vote!

 

[Frostyboy]

I like Great plains. You don't get enemies in your back and it's so much more easy to get an overview. But I miss the water though. Playing Organized / Expansive here will not lett you get use of two bonuses (lighthouses and harbors)

 

[Steph]

Thousands. They were a little hairier than modern cows, and the Natives definitely favored the "free range" method over small pens like we keep them.

For your information, the first cow in America arrived in Jamestown colony in 1611.
Cows are not native of the American continent. Neither are horses.
The only domesticable large animal available in the American continent in 4000 BC were dogs and llamas.

 

[Jonny211]

Having lots of cows about may be good to start with but what about all the methane they generate from their rears... surely global warming will be upon you sooner than you think!