Realpolitik CIV - An Interactive AAR

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Lots of bloodlust around here. Russia has declared war on us? They sign their death certificate. I say we begin the war in earnest, and attack. No mercy.
 
Scandanavia isn't bad land, and northern Russia can be made profitabl on Earth18 by working seatiles and riverside tundra farms/watermills. I presume this can be done on this map as well. Even if it can't happen, any port can be useful if it grows to around size 10. Everything else should be taken and razed, to finish the vikings and motherland unhappyness, which can become crippling. Besides taking vassels can screw up diplomacy, and even in non civ sense we would have to see how our volountary vassel frederick, and potentially Kubalai Khan, react. Actually, what map is this and can we see pictures of Russia and Scandanavia? (either from LH or anybody else who knows/ has pics)

DT
Crusader for the Cause :jesus:
 
Yes Mech, they have indeed. What we're debating now is whether or not we want to unleash a pre-emptive DOW on Ragnar as well.
 
And of course, what will be done with the spoils of war.
All to true.
We like spoils of war: :food: :hammers: :commerce: and :assimilate: people.

DT
Crusader for the Cause :jesus:
 
YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU SO EAGERLY WANT WAR, WHICH CAUSES DEATH, MANY OF INNOCENTS AND MASSIVE DESTRUCTION, WITH MASSIVE ECONOMIC DAMAGE!!! YOU SHOULD BE FLOGGED FOR CAUSING MURDER! CAUSING THE VERY THING YOU PUNISHED ILDUCE FOR!!!! FLOG YOURSELVES NOW!!! [pissed]
 
YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU SO EAGERLY WANT WAR, WHICH CAUSES DEATH, MANY OF INNOCENTS AND MASSIVE DESTRUCTION, WITH MASSIVE ECONOMIC DAMAGE!!! YOU SHOULD BE FLOGGED FOR CAUSING MURDER! CAUSING THE VERY THING YOU PUNISHED ILDUCE FOR!!!! FLOG YOURSELVES NOW!!! [pissed]

The alternative is going to war years down the line since one way or another, the Vikings will want to grab Europe for themselves or they may align with Arabia. We can either strike now and take the core of Vikingdom with only a small number of casualties or we can contend with being invaded again like Rome did when they ravaged all of France.
 
ilduce committed treason and conspired against the greater good of the british people for his own personal gain.

It is not the same.
 
Return to IC:

The Death of Heretics means nothing!!!
Their only hope is the salvation we offer them!
They refuse to take it!
The kindest thing to do is to force it upon them. As heathen disbeleivers they shall go to hell, whereas converts have a chance for forgiveness. Particularly if the pay penance In Ravus York. About 5% of which goes to the Government. 15% goes to the Poor. 20% Is kept for the Church. 60% Goes to ensuring continued comfort of Pope Ravus and his loyal Servants. :p
They must convert, repent and seek forgiveness to go to heaven. This is the best Chance for Eternal life. We must give it to them. It is our Divine Task.

DT
Saving Heathen Souls :jesus:
 
ilduce committed treason and conspired against the greater good of the british people for his own personal gain.

Our soldiers shall be committing MURDER! THEY SHOULD BE THOUGHT OF AS CRIMINALS!

The alternative is going to war years down the line since one way or another, the Vikings will want to grab Europe for themselves or they may align with Arabia. We can either strike now and take the core of Vikingdom with only a small number of casualties or we can contend with being invaded again like Rome did when they ravaged all of France.

Their alignment with Arabia is only a possibility, and we can align with both, ourselves. Trust me, I'm good with diplomacy.

The Death of Heretics means nothing!!!
Their only hope is the salvation we offer them!
They refuse to take it!
The kindest thing to do is to force it upon them. As heathen disbeleivers they shall go to hell, whereas converts have a chance for forgiveness. Particularly if the pay penance In Ravus York. About 5% of which goes to the Government. 15% goes to the Poor. 20% Is kept for the Church. 60% Goes to ensuring continued comfort of Pope Ravus and his loyal Servants.
They must convert, repent and seek forgiveness to go to heaven. This is the best Chance for Eternal life. We must give it to them. It is our Divine Task. :p

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Their alignment with Arabia is only a possibility, and we can align with both, ourselves. Trust me, I'm good with diplomacy.

The problem is that we would have a better time aligning with Arabia than creating something meaningful with the Vikings after decades of tensions over Europe. The Vikings see themselves a major power still.
 
Aligning with Arabia is a worthless pipe dream. Saladin is a dishonourable man, any alliance we have will be broken as soon as he sees fit.

He won't even bother getting behind someone before trying to stab them in the back.
 
IC: We cannot trust the word of a Heathen. Crusade is the only Recouse. It is all God will Accept.

OOC: Never form an Alliance with one who is or will likely become stronger than you. You will be exploited. A defeated enemy is at least treated Honourably. From Machiavelli's 'the Prince' Power Guide, or something similar to this. Crush him.

DT
Crusading for God and England :jesus:
 
Crusading for God? What nonsense.

One should crusade for power, influence and wealth, or miraculously rare occasions for justice, not an invisible man in the sky of dubious repute.
 
It's My Character View. He's a religious Fanatic. I completely agree with You in real life terms, but as i said before, the ability to be spout nonsense and still seem to be doing something is one of the reasons I play.

DT
Defending the Faith :jesus:
 
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