Realpolitik CIV - An Interactive AAR

[Whosit]

Why should i post it when i get this kind of response? This radical response from the opposition highlights one of the reasons of not posting it. Why post it just to have you complain and yell at me about it? Please explain.

You should post it because we have the right to know. The reason that we are upset, well, some may have thought that it had not already been sent, but the fact that you seem to think that we don't even deserve to know what was in the plan, and especially a part of the plan of greatest interest to our parties, is quite insulting.

From what you say, it almost sounds like you expect us to be displeased with your military plans. Obviously, I have no way to know if that is true. Even so, presumably you made the plan with reasons in mind, so if we complained, you would defend your decisions. And I am not requesting this via PM because all of us have the right to see it, even if it has already been submitted. We only make "threats" because you have made it clear that you won't listen to our request out of the sheer goodness of your heart.

We just want the truth! (And don't you dare say "you can't handle the truth!" )

 

[arya126]

Oh so you want the TRUTH? Then you shall have it!

Excerpt from the 'plan, 1.17'-
1. Give up st. petersburg to the arabians for peace. Transfer troops to Iberia. On turn 14 of the turnset, load troops onto galleons, and set sail to africa. DECLARE WAR ON CARTHAGE. Assault the city of carthage from the sea. Do not relent. Beat hannibal to a pulp.

OOC:The writing in black is a lie. Pay no attention to it.12. Move all troops in our vassal germany into position to attack yakutsk and assault it. Move all units in poland and cumae/neapolis germania into position to attack moscow with whatever units are in st. petersburg. Attack.

13. As troops are built move them to russia ASAP. Once the armies are sufficiently reinforced with ALOT of siege most of all, allow them to attack yaroslavl.

2. Then mass draft 3+ units in every city, and use these redcoats to attack vikingdom and poland. Annex them.

Still think you can handle the truth?

EDIT: Dont say i never posted it, nor say that i ever lied.

 

[Twinkletoes89]

*sigh*

 

[Aysee]

Interesting war plans. More comments later.

 

[Dem Taqat]

That was OOC right?
Seeing that might make some nations cautious.
DT
Nervous

 

[Aysee]

There you go Arya. Changing the plan on us YET AGAIN. Seriously, all this stuff could backfire big time if you aren't careful...

 

[Twinkletoes89]

Simply to get over this as I don't like the way this has been delivered, here is the plan.

12. Move all troops in our vassal germany into position to attack yakutsk and assault it. Move all units in poland and cumae/neapolis germania into position to attack moscow with whatever units are in st. petersburg. Attack.

13. As troops are built move them to russia ASAP. Once the armies are sufficiently reinforced with ALOT of siege most of all, allow them to attack yaroslavl.

It is in his post but you need to highlight it to read it.

Now lets move on

 

[Whosit]

I am glad that at least some people in the current Administration have respect for the Opposition. Those plans are vague, but hopefully they will suffice.

 

[Dem Taqat]

Thank you

It's nice to know somebody respects the opposition.

DT
Appeased (for now...)

 

[arya126]

Nice TW. Real nice. At least make it OOC so we dont have a wikileak on our hands.

My respect vanished very recently actually as soon as you started to lead it the way you have been.

 

[Twinkletoes89]

Nice TW. Real nice. At least make it OOC so we dont have a wikileak on our hands.

My respect vanished very recently actually as soon as you started to lead it the way you have been.

Yours wasn't OOC so it doesn't matter really - I was simply revealing information already in the public domain.

What do you mean by the second bit?

 

[Dem Taqat]

What do you mean by the second bit?

He means that when the opposition began banging on his door, demanding plans and threatening VoNCs he lost all respect for us. Because it wasn't a reasonable request.

DT
Clarification

 

[Aysee]

Interesting developments, really. First the fact that the vice president would go and post the plans seems rather... unusual. Especially as the President had gone to such lengths to hide it would suggest that things may not be all rosy between the two... But then there's what TT pointed out: As the whole thing was on the thread, really he's vindicated when he claims it was in the "public domain"

And then the whole "appeasing the opposition" deal. Now that the administration has given in to the opposition's demands, that emboldens the opposition to make more demands.

Really interesting developments, if you think about it.

 

[Whosit]

And then the whole "appeasing the opposition" deal. Now that the administration has given in to the opposition's demands, that emboldens the opposition to make more demands.

Maybe. Maybe not. Despite what some may think, I'm not unreasonable. Besides, the fact that the plan has already been submitted makes any additional demands mostly moot. That may have been the point.

 

[Fellow]

Opposition may not be pissed...

I AM TOUGH!!

We voted for a party (especially green and sanity) promissing peace and build up as soon as this war has been brought to a reasonable end... What is delivered is not only a bold but suicidal plan getting us more enemies (as if we wouldn't have enough allready) and hindering our pacifistic technology based development.


Can anyone advise me how I as a betraied voter may act? How do I get into sabotage actions not beint in the opposition?

 

[NinjaCow64]

Opposition may not be pissed...

I AM TOUGH!!

We voted for a party (especially green and sanity) promissing peace and build up as soon as this war has been brought to a reasonable end... What is delivered is not only a bold but suicidal plan getting us more enemies (as if we wouldn't have enough allready) and hindering our pacifistic technology based development.


Can anyone advise me how I as a betraied voter may act? How do I get into sabotage actions not beint in the opposition?

You mean this plan...

(This entire post is OCC BTW.)

Oh so you want the TRUTH? Then you shall have it!

Excerpt from the 'plan, 1.17'-
1. Give up st. petersburg to the arabians for peace. Transfer troops to Iberia. On turn 14 of the turnset, load troops onto galleons, and set sail to africa. DECLARE WAR ON CARTHAGE. Assault the city of carthage from the sea. Do not relent. Beat hannibal to a pulp.

OOC:The writing in black is a lie. Pay no attention to it.12. Move all troops in our vassal germany into position to attack yakutsk and assault it. Move all units in poland and cumae/neapolis germania into position to attack moscow with whatever units are in st. petersburg. Attack.

13. As troops are built move them to russia ASAP. Once the armies are sufficiently reinforced with ALOT of siege most of all, allow them to attack yaroslavl.

2. Then mass draft 3+ units in every city, and use these redcoats to attack vikingdom and poland. Annex them.

Still think you can handle the truth?

EDIT: Dont say i never posted it, nor say that i ever lied.

As you can see, the black is a lie. The white is the truth. The different colour means that you can’t see it unless you highlight it. The different background with quotes make the white seeable as well. I think TT complained about this as well.

(Santa hatted big grins! Yay! Still, I think I like the cool snowman better though.)

 

[Fellow]

Y



As you can see, the black is a lie. The white is the truth. The different colour means that you can’t see it unless you highlight it. The different background with quotes make the white seeable as well. I think TT complained about this as well.

(Santa hatted big grins! Yay! Still, I think I like the cool snowman better though.)

get me some sleep

 

[ruff_hi]

why do we need a war plan? We shouldn't be in a war, we should be at peace. I demand to see the peace plan!!

 

[Aysee]

There is no peace plan until we finish the war.

There is no finishing the war until we win back Russia from the Arabs.

 

[Dem Taqat]

There is no peace plan until we finish the war.

There is no finishing the war until we win back Russia from the Arabs.

There is one thing missing from this Post.

THERE IS NO CONSIDERING PEACE UNTIL THE CRUSADE IS CALLED OFF!!!

Always remember the crusade, It means a lot to the fanatics here. (even if that is just me )

DT
Crusader for the Cause