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I'm sorry that he is mad.
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I'm sorry that he is mad.
hoplitejoe
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just laying out my stall, I expected that nothing would happen. that's all right though as it is your game.
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Just noticed this as well (sorry).
You only have two construction yards at the beginning, which means you can only build two buildings at time, even if you're building more construction yards.
Nukeknockout
Rusty Hinge
I've apologized to him 37 times IRL. I don't personally see a problem with what I did, just a problem that someone is hurt because of it.
I still think leaving the tab open was exactly like leaving your sensitive documents on a table just out there.
Lighthearter
President of the United States
I don't care about the game anymore. I wanted to play this so bad, but I can't be a part of either alliance. My moral code can no longer allow me to be on the Allies, as they are willing to countenance logging into CFC with an account not your own and using that for personal gain in a freaking GAME. However, Nuke has already demonstrated no moral inhibitions towards using my account for his own gain, so I can't be a part of the WP. That's right. I literally CAN'T play anymore.
Thanks, Nuke.
And Sonereal - you actively knew about Nuke using my account for his own gain and you said it wasn't cheating. I don't give a sh*t what you legislate it as - you've just lost all my respect for you and me as a player in this IOT and every future one you make due to your lack of your own moral guidelines.
So yeah. Either Nuke leaves or I do. And I'm perfectly willing to now no matter how much I've wanted to play this.
-L
Thanks, Nuke.
And Sonereal - you actively knew about Nuke using my account for his own gain and you said it wasn't cheating. I don't give a sh*t what you legislate it as - you've just lost all my respect for you and me as a player in this IOT and every future one you make due to your lack of your own moral guidelines.
So yeah. Either Nuke leaves or I do. And I'm perfectly willing to now no matter how much I've wanted to play this.
-L
Nukeknockout
Rusty Hinge
I did not log onto your account! I copy-pasted a tab that was already open.
And don't you dare accuse me of having no moral inhibitions. I did not, for example, modify your posts, post anywhere, change your sig and picture, or access any pages but the WP social group. I also did not access any of your information but what you left open.
copy-pasting the open tab was like photographing or copying documents you find lying around. I'm sorry that you're hurt, and I gave you my word that I wouldn't do it again.
And if you want to play, then play. I still don't see what's stopping you since I gave you my word.
And don't you dare accuse me of having no moral inhibitions. I did not, for example, modify your posts, post anywhere, change your sig and picture, or access any pages but the WP social group. I also did not access any of your information but what you left open.
copy-pasting the open tab was like photographing or copying documents you find lying around. I'm sorry that you're hurt, and I gave you my word that I wouldn't do it again.
And if you want to play, then play. I still don't see what's stopping you since I gave you my word.
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Lighthearter. Stop making a scene. You left the browser tab open. That isn't cheating. Now, if he had gotten your password with some kind of key-whatever-it's-called, jumped into your account, and stole the information, I would've said something.
And I'm not going to kick your brother because you left your tab open.
Nukeknockout
Rusty Hinge
That said, I took advantage of a family connection to do this. I'm taking a few turns of hiatus. I may see you all in about a week or so.
Lighthearter
President of the United States
I like how you're pretending to be the voice of reason when my account credentials pretty much just got raped for gain in a pathetic meaningless forum game.
I'm done. If all of you think this behavior is acceptable, have fun in your bleak and twisted lives.
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I'm not acting as the voice of reason. I'm acting as the GM. As such, I haven't done a thing to you but all you're doing and continuing to do is
A.) Acting like Domination3000 and Mathalamus and disrupting my IOT.
B.) Insulting the 15+ other players who aren't ragequitting over information being leaked.
C.) Continuing to rage over that mistake. This whole thing isn't making me look bad. I haven't done anything that doesn't happen in other IOTs in one way or another.
If the game was either "pathetic" or "meaningless", why are you raging so badly over it? It's only pathetic and meaningless because your grand scheme was left opened in a tab. If you had just quit and said "Yeah, my brother figured out our plans. That sucks and I'm quitting," then no one would have noticed and your credentials wouldn't be "raped". Instead, you posted I quit in size 5, red font and ranted for two paragraphs. And kept doing it.
Then you posted in the Warsaw Pact group and tried to get more players to ragequit and when that failed, you came back and continued to ragepost. Who looks bad? Me, the GM who makes the rules and decides on how those are enforced or you the player who continues to rage post over something you consider meaningless?
So, let me speak in a language you're familiar with from RP.
I'm the Man here and I decide what goes. Since I make the rules, I can say that Nuke didn't cheat. Because that wasn't a rule that I would or could enforce. I have the final say over all things that happens in this thread. If I had decided to blow up an island in Hawaii, kicked you for a turn, and then gave you a -10% defensive modifier for the turn you was kicked, I would STILL be within my rights. As a matter of fact, I'VE DONE THAT IN ANOTHER IOT WITH A DIFFERENT PLAYER. And even THAT player didn't ragequit over it.
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Update 2
Autumn, 1947
Autumn, 1947
Events
Hawaii - Division
Hawaii has been divided into the "Kingdom of Hawai'i" (WP) and Socialist Republic of Hawaii (WP).
Both sides have agreed to a peace treaty.
Italo-Spanish Union - 9
-The suicide bombing in Alcazar has prompted fear among Party Leadership (namely those in the "lower" rungs of the party) for their safety.
(Open-Ended Response)
Republic of Albany - 4
-The people of Finland are demanding independence from the Republic of Albany (Will form Finland: Allied if the Republic of Albany accepts)
-Ignored by the government, militias are forming across Albany that are outside the military structure.
(3 Militias form. Militias have a 5% penalty to everything)
-A new government has elected in the Republic of Albany.
Republic of Virginia - 11
-Cooler heads have prevailed in Texas.
Union of the North - 14
-More and more capitalists are flocking to the Union of the North. With several untapped ore deposits, it's apparent that soon, power will be an issue. So, one has volunteered to build a power plant, free of charge.
(Place where?)
-A new government has been elected in the Union of the North.
Great Antioch - 16
-Comrade, the people wish for nothing more than to fight for the motherland and communism. So much so, that they have offered to build a barracks.
(Place barracks)
Socialist Islamic Republic of Makkah - 15
-The workers of the new Mecca Power Plant are extremely efficient.
(+10 Power generated)
Russia - SUCCESS
-The protesters are satisfied (-$7 per turn)
Missed Orders this Turn (Another Missed Turn and the Nations become NPCs)
Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
Republic of Virginia
GM Notes
If a nation lacks an ore refinery and the money to buy one or a subpen/naval yard, players can instead trade with it's capital with either freighters or cargo trucks. In that case, however, the bonuses are 15%/5% instead of 30%/10% for naval/land trade.
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So, we all (should) have an idea how actual combat works. However, nobody (even I until writing this update) knows what losing a battle entails.
If the Attack Loses:
When a unit is defeated in combat, there's a 75% chance it survives. After that, there is a 75% chance it can do the following. The other 25% will be captured "become Prisoners of War".
Orderly Retreat: This is the one I'll default to most of the time. An orderly retreat means that all the survivors go back to the launching point territory.
Rout: You have to have lost the battle badly if this happens. If your forces are routed, at most only half of the surviving forces will return to the launching-point territory. Some units will become Deserters and Bandits while others will go to any adjacent territory free territory (that isn't owned by the enemy).
Deserters are NOT fun to have around. They basically roam around, trying to survive and make money. The only ways to respond to Deserters is either negotiating with them or capturing/destroying them.
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This is the same case if Defenders lose, only the Defenders will retreat to "defendable" territory unless there's an order from the player to go somewhere else.
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Prisoners of War and PoW Camps
After you read this, tell me whether or not I should keep the PoW Mechanic. Otherwise, I'll scrap it.
Spoiler :
(No Ore Added)
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Key:
Territories with units are marked with squares. If the unit is inside it's country, there's a white X inside the box.
Gray lines are roads. Territories that have a road but don't have territories around it with road are still marked in the buildings. Otherwise, the roads are marked in the building lists.
Buildings
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I was going to ask what's the problem until I recounted and realized that it isn't 12-12 like I thought it was.
(Fixing)
Edit: Fixed, Kingdom of Hawai'i added back to Warsaw Pact. Will explain with a story post later.
arya126
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Really guys?
I think ALL OF YOU are being absolutely Immature. Sonereal do you honestly believe that outside of the game, Nuke went on to his computer (does it really F*cking matter whether the tab was open or not? nuke shouldnt have been on the computer in the first place!) and copy pasted stuff that was on it. So was if it was open? he shouldnt have been on his computer at all. If he really did have some moral guidelines, then he would have just ignored the stupid tab, and even the computer altogether.
Sonereal, the difference between your precedents and this case is that this was done in real life. it wasnt true espionage of a traitor being in your midst, it was someone actually getting onto anothers account, and taking information from it. it would have been one thing if it was a WP country that copy pasted the plan in a PM to an allied country. but it didnt happen that way. this was done in RL.
Nuke...just stop. You say LH is acting childish? Well you caused it, when you took the childish action of stealing information from your brothers computer for a petty forum game. How low is that?
I'm sorry, but i just cant continue if you three continue to act this way in the thread. sonereal, you are abusing the man. Nuke, you did something wrong, and yet you continue to try and turn it on your brother and how he is acting. And LH, ragequitting solves NOTHING.
So if you three cant solve this like civilized people, then I'm out of this game. I await your response.
I think ALL OF YOU are being absolutely Immature. Sonereal do you honestly believe that outside of the game, Nuke went on to his computer (does it really F*cking matter whether the tab was open or not? nuke shouldnt have been on the computer in the first place!) and copy pasted stuff that was on it. So was if it was open? he shouldnt have been on his computer at all. If he really did have some moral guidelines, then he would have just ignored the stupid tab, and even the computer altogether.
Sonereal, the difference between your precedents and this case is that this was done in real life. it wasnt true espionage of a traitor being in your midst, it was someone actually getting onto anothers account, and taking information from it. it would have been one thing if it was a WP country that copy pasted the plan in a PM to an allied country. but it didnt happen that way. this was done in RL.
Nuke...just stop. You say LH is acting childish? Well you caused it, when you took the childish action of stealing information from your brothers computer for a petty forum game. How low is that?
I'm sorry, but i just cant continue if you three continue to act this way in the thread. sonereal, you are abusing the man. Nuke, you did something wrong, and yet you continue to try and turn it on your brother and how he is acting. And LH, ragequitting solves NOTHING.
So if you three cant solve this like civilized people, then I'm out of this game. I await your response.
How about we just move on from here and keep playing what is shaping up to be a really cool game?
It’s not a perfect situation, but we’ll all deal. Decisions have been made; we should just live with them and move on.
It’s not a perfect situation, but we’ll all deal. Decisions have been made; we should just live with them and move on.
hoplitejoe
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not sure if someone missed this so i thought i would show it again.
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Will fix.
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