Red Dwarf Mafia: The Smeggening [Game Thread - Concluded]

[BSmith1068]

BSmith pings my scumdar. That last sentence is far too long for its content. Sounds like trying to be townie.

I wasn’t trying anything. I was doing something.

My $$$ on bsmith not pming anyone

Can I take that bet?

BSmith could very well be a wolf...I wish I knew a little bit more about his playstyle. Are the regulars here getting anything from him or am I just being paranoid?

Probably paranoid, but I guess that really isn’t for me to say.

 

[Double A]

I dont know. I make reasonable guesses

wow that sure is positively enlightening
Kenning or whatever

 

[Cuthillius]

I dont know. I make reasonable guesses

Then why bring your role into this?

 

[spaceman98]

Jarrema voted for Snerk when he was already voting for Snerk. He wasn't just calling for us to not lynch Majiffy, he was creating false momentum for the counterwagon.

Wait your right
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=13943601#post13943601

and http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=13944113#post13944113

vote: Jarrema

how did I not see this

Honestly I don’t have a lot of thoughts about the game yet. This is the beginning of D2 and aside from the D1 shenanigans there is still very little to go on. I have yet to know the impact of my action last night (didn’t get a PM, so I assume I don’t get confirmation) and I haven’t really had the time to send a PM to the person I performed the action on to get a reaction.

And before you (or anyone) asks, no I will not go into more detail on my ability.

It is kind of wonderful that we have so many new players and perspectives. I think it is terrific, really. I would expect more information to be forthcoming as we get further into this, but it would be thrilling if Kennigit was scum and we lynched him today.

BSmith what changed between these two posts?

My $$$ on bsmith not pming anyone

My other ping would be pouter pidgeon for being first to break majiffy chain. He however did vote bsmith, so that tie is kind of weak if they could be teammates (distancing day 1 is easy)

From my role I am willing to bet a solid cohort of wolves, like one team with 4. I would be very surprised if the wolf teams were symmetrical (eg 3 scum and 3 scum, but identical)

This post requires more explanation. How do you know?

 

[Kennigit]

Then why bring your role into this?

Because im not going to sit around and not help the town....

 

[Internet Flea]

Kennigit: What's your opinion on Jarrema?

 

[Double A]

Because im not going to sit around and not help the town....

*is easily convincible on day 2*

 

[Zack]

What, does your mafia PM say to destroy the other mafia team?

 

[SamSniped]

Serious question which hasn't been asked yet - was anyone injured through the night? If so, could possibly reveal more factions than the suspected 3.

I'm still catching up, school just started for me so things are hectic right now. I'll read through and vote ASAP.

 

[Zack]

Serious question which hasn't been asked yet - was anyone injured through the night? If so, could possibly reveal more factions than the suspected 3.

I'm still catching up, school just started for me so things are hectic right now. I'll read through and vote ASAP.

Do you have reason to believe there's an injury mechanic?

 

[SamSniped]

Beyond the fact that I've seen it somewhat frequently - or at least people speaking up about failed attacks - within the first couple nights of a game in the past, yes, I do have reason to believe so.

 

[BSmith1068]

BSmith what changed between these two posts

I spent some time actually paying attention.

 

[Kennigit]

(1) You all are coincidentally correct that I may have a poor stretch. I assumed my role could imply something about the scum, but it could imply something about an item.

Nothing strange about the mechanics of my role, but my neighborly idea is to give a cup of sugar to bake into the townie pie. My role at least makes me optimistic that there might be other information to glean about the scum, rather than be blind. So I provided what I can.

(2)

Kennigit: What's your opinion on Jarrema?

My gut is to think he wasn't paying attention. I've taken a lot of thought over this typing up this post.

I don't think I've ever seen on cfc someone do an unnecessary duplicate vote knowingly to create momentum. So I 100% assume Jarrema probably forgot he was voting Snerk.

The question is whether jarrema voted (the second time) snerk because he saw in the mafia quicktopic his dear buddy majiffy was being lynched, or if he thought something like this

On the other hand, if you [majiffy] are scum, you're suicidal. Or a very large risk-taker. Either way, it ain't doing you good.

My gut is to think Jarrema thought majiffy was too wild to be a scum earnestly.

Jarrema came in at a time with some precedent to not go on majiffy. jht pulled out of majiffy in the thick of things after starting on majiffy, and legato followed the 2 posts after also not pursuing majiffy. Both were town. Snerk also did not commit to the majiffy wagon, and right when jarrema showed up. The wagon lost some steam.

The conflicting thought (e.g. why I am voting pouter pigeon) is he really came in there to seem "wise" about being able to read townieness. Spaceman and Pouter Pigeon seemed to try to be very cautious about it. I already criticized spaceman in day phase 1.

Jarrema could be doing the same thing, but he was more committed in his statement. To the effect of "[I believe] majiffy is town". I generally think scum avoid absolutes early on. It shows you could have some knowledge. Scum have to hide any potential of Perfect Information Syndrome. Jarrema drew in a hard line. Spaceman and pouter pigeon "softballed" in some friction to the wheels of the majiffy wagon.

I would hope Jarrema/Majiffy were just scum teammates, because then basically 2 of majiffy/jarrema/martinluther are explicitly scum (martinluther could have been an ignorant townie that just accidentally saved a scum, if the majiffy/jarrema angle was there). There is a chance jarrema/majiffy could be connected as townie teammates though, with a sanctioned quicktopic (masons).


I personally take no reads on majiffy himself because he was just chaos.

 

[Kennigit]

Though of course, spaceman's vote is what triggered majiffy in the first place

so I don't take his caution as bad as I do pouter pigeon. After all, it would suck if you start a wagon [in that case randomly] and it turns out to be wrong. You get scrutinized.

 

[bladescape]

wow that sure is positively enlightening
Kenning or whatever

Good post /s

I am in two minds about Kennigit's last post, but it's enough that I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Unvote
Vote: Pigeon

 

[choxorn]

Because im not going to sit around and not help the town....

If you want to be helpful, then why do you keep making vague comments about how you think your role might imply something about the game without going into any kind of detail? You act like you have useful information, but you're not telling us what it is, why it's leading you to guess things about the scum factions or about items. You're talking a lot, but you're not saying anything. Like Pouter said, you're being anti-information.

If you really mean what you say, then give us actual information to work with. If it's just something you don't want to say in public, at least tell us that and maybe PM someone.

 

[Newyn]

Vote Kennigit because I still believe there's something going on between him and Landlubber.

 

[choxorn]

Do you care to elaborate, Newyn? What do you think is going on between Kennigit and landlubber?

 

[remake20]

Well, Pouter Pigeon, in his only posts today, inserted his own random thoughts in the middle of an otherwise targeted discussion. He also did not address the claim against him by Kennigit. Though it might be ignorable in other circumstances, when combined with the off topic bits and a vote for Kennigit that was barely justified I question his innocence.

 

[landlubber]

Vote Kennigit because I still believe there's something going on between him and Landlubber.

I'm not sure how you see that. Majiffy was hellbent on seeing Kennigit lynched.

Vote: Jarrema for pretty much the same reason as yesterday.