Red Dwarf Mafia: The Smeggening [Game Thread - Concluded]

[Jarrema]

I still think that we should lynch Landlubber

 

[choxorn]

I respectfully disagree. I find remake most scummy. Like landlubber said, he's trying as hard as he can to not attract attention and like Zack said he was constantly copying spaceman, not coming up with any original suspicions or reasoning.

 

[Double A]

Landlubber's probably not scum. Suddenly less sure of Tak.

vote: Auto I guess. Both my leaniest leans are dead. Auto, why are you even more quiet than me when I was sick?

 

[Jarrema]

I have reasons to trust Choxorn's intuitions, so remake

 

[Visorslash]

Autolycus, you have been found unworthy of having existed. Your life and all memory of you will be wiped from history. The void you occupied in the space-time continuum will be allocated to a person who was never given the gift of life. May they spend their time more wisely."

Autolycus has died. He was a

Spoiler :

Psiren!

 

[Jarrema]

here is second mafia team. Time to look for players associated with Auto

 

[BSmith1068]

Remake.

 

[Double A]

Remake then

 

[Internet Flea]

Shallow readthrough on Auto shows him defending remake.

 

[Winston Hughes]

vote: Takhisis

 

[Takhisis]

Winusutonu-san, you suddenly show up to try and start a one-word counter-waggon? Oh no, sir. That isn't done.

 

[Pouter Pigeon]

First of all, sorry for the long absence. The IRL took hold of me and this game kind of got lost in the works for a while. It looks like remake is getting lynched today which suits me just fine. He pinged for me earlier (I think there was some opportunistic voting or something like that a while back) and hasn't done anything super townish since then.

Just to add a little more interest to this day, what do people think of the theory that Jarrema could be some sort of godfather role? His being a vanilla seems sketchy to me and I think it's feasible that the wolf teams might have been cooperating in some way...just a lingering theory I've had brewing over the last few days...

 

[remake20]

Oh my. First off, I would like to direct you to these posts to show that I have indeed presented original arguments. I still don't see a extraordinary link between myself and spaceman, but I'm not sure how that matters since his scum team is dead. I will admit, my posts have been rather under-the-radar (except for maybe my tirade against Al yesterday) so I am more than willing to expose myself and answer any questions you may have. Give me something more to at least defend against instead of lacking-of-content votes. If I'm town, I have a better chance to clear my name and we have an infinitely better chance of lynching scum. If I'm scum, it shouldn't be too hard to catch me on something.

 

[choxorn]

Those arguments are original, but they seem a bit lacking in substance.

For reference, here's every time Autolycus mentioned remake:

This resonates with me, although the stuff Murska said about cuthilius does as well. Since we have some time, I'll put my vote on Remake for now, and I'll be back on this evening to either confirm or move my vote.

Autolycus votes remake early on Day 4. This puts him up to 2 votes, but behind Winston and Cuthilius, and Auto was all over Cuthilius's scumminess Day 3 and could have easily made this vote as a distancing attempt with the intent of switching to Cuthilius later if he needed to (and he did switch, at the end of the day, well after it mattered)

So let me get this straight, spaceman, you used an ability scan to scan murska, but instead got a result on remake that said his ability was to redirect other stuff that targeted his target onto him?


But remake claims not to have targeted Murska. Is that correct?

Asking about spaceman's scan on remake. Could be genuine questions, but could also be easily faked, because if he was remake's teammate he'd know remake's abilities.

Given spaceman's scan of him, I don't like the remake wagon. Double A seems to be the main alternative wagon we have, and he feels like a better lynch at this point. I'll try to be back on before the deadline.

I call BS on this. This isn't a genuine suspicion of Double A, he's just trying to come up with a reason to save remake. That looks pretty bad for you, remake.

So, we've got some pretty scummy looking interactions with Autolycus while you're flying under the radar and saying little that's original thought.

So, why don't you start right now, if you're so townie? If you're not one of Autolycus's teammates, then who is?

 

[remake20]

In defense of myself: Auto mentions me 3 times which is just about as much as he mentions anyone. If this is distancing, it's really poor. This also has all been recent, if he was going to distance himself from me, he should have done it earlier, he had opportunities. His vote for AA to "save" me came when I had a fair amount of pressure on me and he didn't make any case against AA. This is even worse scum play if he's trying to save me as it just draws us together even more.

Potential scum partners:
Jarrema:

here is second mafia team. Time to look for players associated with Auto

Here he eagerly states the obvious and the townie thing to do, but doesn't actually make any attempt to do it.

either town vigilante (he can be either eager to kill, or have compulsive kill ability) or serial killer.
as opposed to second 'team', I think it is possible to have SK in this game. Second team is unlikely, given size of known mafia

He doesn't think there is a second scum team and with these numbers, is definitely a bit crazy. Auto calls him out on this and that is a much better attempt at distancing.

As someone mentioned earlier, the vanilla scan/claim is a perfect coverup for a godfather. When he's been under pressure, he's mostly ignored his accusations and just silently rode off of the radar. A bunch of fluff votes around too. He looks like the most likely partner of auto.



BSmith: Next to none game activity. Most of his posts have been mod stuff or meta discussion. I understand he's busy, but if he could at least contribute to meaningful discussion when around, it would be nice.


landlubber: Makes several anti-revenge seeker posts that seem over the top like he's trying to say "I'm not a RS, so I must be town!"


Sorry these last two are kinda lame, I had like 45 minutes to post and I ran out of time.

 

[landlubber]

landlubber: Makes several anti-revenge seeker posts that seem over the top like he's trying to say "I'm not a RS, so I must be town!"

I made those posts because IF's case on me was/is bad, not because I need townie points. I never insinuated that there was only one scum team, and there are no connections between me, choxorn, and Jarrema except obvious ones (i.e. they're not anti-town).

I'm not understanding the whole "godfather Jarrema" thing. Why would the smaller scum team need a godfather? Unless you believe that the second team is as large as the RS, it's a weird charge to levy.

Of course Auto wasn't going to distance himself from you consistently all game. Too obvious. He distanced himself from you when his vote affected your survival, and ignored you when it didn't. Classic scum move.

 

[Takhisis]

Mmmkay, looks like remake20 is going down. I'll keep a vote on Winusutonu-san and tomorrow night someone scan Jarrema and/or Winston.

 

[remake20]

I made those posts because IF's case on me was/is bad, not because I need townie points. I never insinuated that there was only one scum team, and there are no connections between me, choxorn, and Jarrema except obvious ones (i.e. they're not anti-town).

I'm not understanding the whole "godfather Jarrema" thing. Why would the smaller scum team need a godfather? Unless you believe that the second team is as large as the RS, it's a weird charge to levy.

Of course Auto wasn't going to distance himself from you consistently all game. Too obvious. He distanced himself from you when his vote affected your survival, and ignored you when it didn't. Classic scum move.

A smaller scum team would need some extra power somehow and a vanilla scan (especially to the opposing mafia team) makes perfect sense to me.

Again, if Auto was trying to save me, he did a really poor job of it. He put a vote on AA midday to put us into a tie. If you're gonna save your scum partner, you don't put a vote on the counter waggon midday with almost no argument. You either wait till late when you're sure your vote could matter or you try and make an argument for the counter wagon to push it along. Anything else is just silly.

 

[choxorn]

Again, if Auto was trying to save me, he did a really poor job of it. He put a vote on AA midday to put us into a tie. If you're gonna save your scum partner, you don't put a vote on the counter waggon midday with almost no argument. You either wait till late when you're sure your vote could matter or you try and make an argument for the counter wagon to push it along. Anything else is just silly.

Then it was a poor scum move, but a scum move nonetheless.

 

[Takhisis]

…Such as Winston's today.