Returning Lurker
Prince
Babylonians 22+1=23
Carthaginians 6
Dutch 5
Ethiopians 15
Hittites 4
Incas 31
Iroquois 13
Khmer 21-3=18
Koreans 17
Malians 23
Mayans 22
Mongols 28
Ottoman Turks 14
Portuguese 5
Siamese 16
I mostly just want Babylon because they screwed up Sumeria so badly. If they'd made a genuine well thought out and well designed Sumerian civ I'd be downvoting Babylon right now since they'd be redundant for the time being. But we didn't get a genuine well thought out and well designed Sumeria. Instead what we got was a joke. Every single meaningful thing about the civilization bar the war cart is based on 4000 year old fan fiction rather than the actual history of history's first civilization (debatably. I know Indus valley , and proto-Egyptian civilization are also in the running and archaeologists to this day are fighting over who came first but Sumeria is definitely a strong contender). And before you bring up the ziggurat I'd like to point out that I said every MEANINGFUL thing was based on fan fiction, and the ziggurat doesn't qualify since there are so many more important improvements to lay down early in the game and the benefits of the unique improvement so minuscule that ziggurats are barely an afterthought. So, seeing as how they completely butchered that fertile crescent civ,might as well add in another one and do it properly this time. Besides, with the absurd amount of warmongers being added to the game we could use a new defense oriented side and Babylon could definitely fit that bill.
I'd downvote Korea again but I feel it's been too soon since the last time. I'd hit the Portuguese and Dutch but frankly that contest is so nailbitingly close I'm just interested to see who goes first without my intervention. So it's Khmer again simply because I have more investment in Siam and Indonesia.
Carthaginians 6
Dutch 5
Ethiopians 15
Hittites 4
Incas 31
Iroquois 13
Khmer 21-3=18
Koreans 17
Malians 23
Mayans 22
Mongols 28
Ottoman Turks 14
Portuguese 5
Siamese 16
I mostly just want Babylon because they screwed up Sumeria so badly. If they'd made a genuine well thought out and well designed Sumerian civ I'd be downvoting Babylon right now since they'd be redundant for the time being. But we didn't get a genuine well thought out and well designed Sumeria. Instead what we got was a joke. Every single meaningful thing about the civilization bar the war cart is based on 4000 year old fan fiction rather than the actual history of history's first civilization (debatably. I know Indus valley , and proto-Egyptian civilization are also in the running and archaeologists to this day are fighting over who came first but Sumeria is definitely a strong contender). And before you bring up the ziggurat I'd like to point out that I said every MEANINGFUL thing was based on fan fiction, and the ziggurat doesn't qualify since there are so many more important improvements to lay down early in the game and the benefits of the unique improvement so minuscule that ziggurats are barely an afterthought. So, seeing as how they completely butchered that fertile crescent civ,might as well add in another one and do it properly this time. Besides, with the absurd amount of warmongers being added to the game we could use a new defense oriented side and Babylon could definitely fit that bill.
I'd downvote Korea again but I feel it's been too soon since the last time. I'd hit the Portuguese and Dutch but frankly that contest is so nailbitingly close I'm just interested to see who goes first without my intervention. So it's Khmer again simply because I have more investment in Siam and Indonesia.
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