After finishing two games over the last few weeks i have a question concerning the hungarian UHV: Why is Thrace left out of the Defender of Europe goal? Looks like an oversight to me.
And the other one is about Lithuanias Commonwealth UHV: Right now it leaves Poland out of the equasion, which is a shame. You really don't need Poland for the UHV and i just conquer it because it's right there and kind of nice
Here is my idea: Either put Poland in the other UHV, so it says "Conquer or Vassalise Moscow and Poland" or change the Commonwealth to "have 18 cities within the provinces of (insert historical area)".
I know it's a minor issue because players should conquer Poland anyway, put having to do it might spice up those UHVs.
As I stated before, I'm still playing the non-SVN version, up to patch 1.01, and there Hungarian UHV3 is:
Defender of Europe
Allow no Ottoman cities in Wallachia, Moesia,
Thrace, Macedonia, Thessaloniki, Thessaly, Epirus, Arberia, Serbia, Bosnia, Dalmatia and Croatia in 1444 AD
Did it change? why?
If not, are you sure of this Krschtschn? Maybe you were playing an older version or just didn't see it on the list.
About Lithuania I don't see a problem here, but I can't see any problem in specifying the Provinces. 18 Cities to get from 5 fronts:
Livonia/Estonia - Naturally your first aim (or at least the most secure, but the smallest one too). Livonia is almost entirely in your flipping zone, so it's pretty easy.
Former Kievan Rus' - Naturally your over-expansion from Lithuania, as the barbs are a lot easier to handle then your neighbors (at least after the mongols stopped spawning)
Muscovy Contested Territory - Needed for UHV3, but you'll probably get only few cities because you either conquered it early, so not many cities to get there, or you left it for the finishing blow, one that you could do only to Moscow, but couldn't handle for the entire Muscovy Realm (they can't be left alone for many years, if not they will crush you)
Hungary - Far from you, maybe not the better of ideas, but a possibility
Poland - The easiest foe on RFC Europe. Seriously Poland is so pathetic that anybody can handle it. Germany usually vassalize them, if not it's Austria, if not it's Muscovy or Hungary, or they just collapse. Sometimes even Sweden strike at them (if they survived long enough). In my current game with Austria I took Hungary just after my spawn, and Germany was the next target. Because of me and my aim at somewhere else, I found Poland to be a good partner and they found enough partnership and room to expand. Soon they took the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. After they couldn't handle Muscovy, they declared war on me just to wait a few turns and ask for capitulation
without a single city taken, just some dead polish troops discarded on my Silesia city (just outside of their capital). They were one of the major players (placed on top 5, with the third biggest territory - losing to me [1st] and to Cordoba [2nd
])
18 cities are a lot of cities, and with this configuration, Lithuania player will most of the time get them from Poland and Kievan Rus', as the Rus' lands aren't enough (and Ottomans on Northern Black Sea are a lot worse to handle then poor Poland). But specifying the territories IMO wont change anything, I would put the following:
Get 18 cities in Lithuania, Livonia, Estonia, Volhynia, Galicia, Brest, Minsk, Polotsk, Smolensk, Chernigov, Kiev, Podolia, Sloboda, Pereyaslavl, Suvalkija, Pomerania, Masovia, Lesser Poland, Greater Poland and Silesia.
(instead of +2) for La Mezquita and +2/3
(instead of +5) for the Sistine Chapel?
