[R&F] Rise and Fall Live Stream General Thread

[Lord Lakely]

Any intel on Vicky?

 

[Giskler]

 

[clapyourhands]

Holy crud that's way better than expected.

 

[shaglio]

So it seems that Sumeria still has that "Pay half the usual cost to levy city state units."
At the same time Foreign Ministry (Tier 2 Government Building): "Leveraging City States costs half Gold. Leveraged Units gain +4 Combat Strength."

So what happens if Sumeria builds Foreign ministry? Free levy?

1/4 would be my guess.

 

[Giskler]

No changes to Scythia, Rome or England.

 

[shaglio]

I thought it would only be 1 Diplomacy slot converted to a Wildcard slot. This is a little more flexible.

 

[pgm123]

Holy crud that's way better than expected.

All is such a powerful word. For a second I glossed over it and was very disappointed. I'll definitely be excited to play America relatively soon.

Apologies, is there a list of civs with changes?

 

[Giskler]

Olives icon. From a german video.

 

[clapyourhands]

Anyone have a good explanation of how the new bonus relates to the “Founding Fathers” flavorwise? It’s a nice buff, but I don’t really see the connection.

 

[Tiger Genocide]

Teddy is no longer Tier 3 or Tier 4, if these changes hold. I need to think about it more, but this is a flexibility that gets stronger as the government changes.

Same goes for Spain, that loyalty bonus for a mission might make him pretty darn good on domination gameplay.

 

[pgm123]

Anyone have a good explanation of how the new bonus relates to the “Founding Fathers” flavorwise? It’s a nice buff, but I don’t really see the connection.

I think it's just that the old bonus no longer made sense. However, I can try. Democracy gives you 2 Diplomacy slots. That means you get four Wild Card slots. So you can use all three legacy bonuses for the previous governments.

 

[Siptah]

Olives icon. From a german video.

It gives production and food. Not sure if that was known already.

 

[UWHabs]

I think it's just that the old bonus no longer made sense. However, I can try. Democracy gives you 2 Diplomacy slots. That means you get four Wild Card slots. So you can use all three legacy bonuses for the previous governments.

So Teddy's democracy with Potala Palace and Forbidden City would now be 6 wildcard slots.

 

[Josephias]

Yay! But is it a luxury or a bonus (well, probably a luxury, given its rarity.)

Purple background in the icon = luxury

 

[Cerilis]

So Teddy's democracy with Potala Palace and Forbidden City would now be 6 wildcard slots.

But does the potala palace slot also get converted? Strictly seen, it isnt a "slot in the current government".

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

Anyone have a good explanation of how the new bonus relates to the “Founding Fathers” flavorwise? It’s a nice buff, but I don’t really see the connection.

Given that Government Plaza Buildings provide unique Policy Cards, this allows America to basically slot them in without having to sacrifice other slots except Diplomatic (and truthfully, there's usually only one or two I actually actively use all the time in those anyway).

 

[Giskler]

Statue of Liberty: Gain 2 settlers, all your cities within 6 tiles are always at 100 loyalty.

 

[Guandao]

Watching Quill18's live stream
AI Civs conquering City-States as usual.....

Two new Spy Missions: Foment Unrest (which affects the loyalty of the city) and Neutralize Governor.

He seems to be razing the Dutch cities instead of keeping them. I'm not a big fan of razing conquered cities.

 

[Giskler]

Better look at that new world wonder.

It is Zhangye Danxia.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Statue of Liberty: Gain 2 settlers, all your cities within 6 tiles are always at 100 loyalty.

So if one of those cities happens to belong to another civ, does it rapidly flip?