Rise And Rule Revisited (epic mod)

[ynot56]

A minor point, the Guppy does not upgrade. I assume the Guppy should upgrade to the nuclear submarine.

 

[Civinator]

A minor point, the Guppy does not upgrade. I assume the Guppy should upgrade to the nuclear submarine.

Sorry ynot56, but an upgrade from normal to nuclear submarines in RARR is not intended.

 

[Civinator]

Attached are new biqs for the RARR Worldmap. The Celts now are playable again and start in Irland. Some testings by volunteers would be very welcome before I´m posting them at page 1 of the RARR thread, as at present I don´t have the time for testing and observing those games on that map.

I attache the normal version of that worldmap and a Debug-version, where all operations by all civs can be watched (and some changes could be done during gameplay).

 

[ynot56]

Sorry, I though the Guppy was sort of out of place after Attack Submarine.

 

[Civinator]

Sorry, I though the Guppy was sort of out of place after Attack Submarine.

May be they could be set to obsolescence (like the battleships) when the civ can build nuclear subs, so the conventional subs are disappearing from the build queue - but the hardcoded upgrade entry of that unit would irritate some civers again.

Spoiler :

 

[XTC]

I will test you new biq when I'm finished with the one I am playing now.

One question about the League of Nations World Wonder: Immediately after completion there is an election. After how many turns would be the second election (of course as long it is not obsoleted)

 

[Takeo]

After how many turns would be the second election (of course as long it is not obsoleted)

Diplomatic voting comes up every 5 turns, no matter what wonder it is connected to.

 

[XTC]

Thanks, Takeo, then there will be some votings before it is obsoleted.

 

[ynot56]

I think setting the guppy to obsolesce with the nuclear submarine is a good move.

 

[XTC]

Isn't the Mass Transit System a bit redundant? It cost more than the Park and the Park also offers some culture.

 

[Takeo]

Isn't the Mass Transit System a bit redundant? It cost more than the Park and the Park also offers some culture.

The Park reduces pollution(supposedly building pollution, but might be total pollution?) by 1. An Airport produces 1 pollution, which would be reduced to 0.

Mass Transit reduces only population pollution, whatever the total is, down to 1. A size 25 metropolis would produce 10 pollution, which would be reduced to 1.

And I personally would probably ask why the maintenance for a Park and an entire Mass Transit System are the same.

 

[ynot56]

A minor nit, but the arrow on the tech tree points from emancipation to espionage, yet I do not need emancipation to research espionage.

On a more substantive note, I agree with Takeo that perhaps the maintenance for the Park should be lowered somewhat.

 

[Civinator]

These are simply the settings for those buildings since decades in DyP and RAR and I see no imperative reasons to do here some changes.

 

[ynot56]

Just an observation, but moving the infantry upgrade to totalitarianism instead of mechanized warfare really cuts down the lifetime of the trencher and makes the run from Infantry to Grunt all that much longer.

 

[Takhisis]

Isn't the Mass Transit System a bit redundant? It cost more than the Park and the Park also offers some culture.

If you check the entries you quoted you'll see that one building is for building pollution and the other is for population pollution.

 

[Lionic]

Hello Civinator! I've been browsing through RARR's PediaIcons.txt file and found out that PRTO_Amphibious_Infantry refers to "Infantry" graphics, even though you have a dedicated "Amphibious Infantry" in "Units" folder. Is it intended?

 

[Civinator]

Hello Civinator! I've been browsing through RARR's PediaIcons.txt file and found out that PRTO_Amphibious_Infantry refers to "Infantry" graphics, even though you have a dedicated "Amphibious Infantry" in "Units" folder. Is it intended?

Lionic, thank you very much for reporting this error.

In the pediaicons entry of that unit I only wrote Infantry instead of Amphibious Infantry. A new pediaicons file, that fixes this minor error (as the game can also be played with the old pediaicons file, too) is attached to this post. It should replace the old pediaicons file in the RARR\text folder.

 

[ynot56]

Another minor issue. In the science advisor screen, there is an arrow from Amphibious Warfare to Modern Air Defense, however I did not have to research Amphibious Warfare to research Modern Air Defense.

 

[Civinator]

Another minor issue. In the science advisor screen, there is an arrow from Amphibious Warfare to Modern Air Defense, however I did not have to research Amphibious Warfare to research Modern Air Defense.

ynot56, thank you very much for reporting this error.

For the tech Modern Air Defense the prerequisites Amphibious Warfare and Mechanized Warfare were not set in the editor. So the game can be played without those settings, the tech Modern Air Defense can be received more earlier without these additional settings. I have corrected these settings for the next version of all three RARR biqs.

As the game can be played without those settings, I wait with the release of those corrected biqs to avoid an inflation in the numbering of RARR biqs when (may be) more of such errors will be reported.

 

[ynot56]

I didn't notice that Mechanized warfare was not required because I researched that first in the modern era.