Rothschild and conspiracy theories

[Archbob]

So, how much do the richest people in this family have?
Some bogus report said the family overall has $500 trillion stashed somewhere.
Of course, this is bogus as you can't just hide $500 trillion in wealth.

A more reasonable estimate is probably $400 billion in total family wealth divided among hundreds descendents of the original Rothschild.

What does everyone think?

 

[Tahuti]

They are very low profile. Whatever wealth they collectively may have probably seems rather irrelevant currently.

I seriously consider the possibility that Putin may be significantly wealthier than Bill Gates though.

 

[Hygro]

So the first main Rothschild was not only able to send his kids to different capitals around Europe to open banks, but was also able to leave them his own personal estate in a time when Jewish court bankers (i.e. really high profile Jewish bankers) were often stripped of their wealth upon death, if not sooner.

They are famous basically because they were some of the first "modern" international major bankers to keep their wealth secure. That would mean they had less dynastic competition around them. Pretty sweet gig at the time, but I can't imagine they are financially relevant anymore.

 

[Borachio]

It's strange though. You'd think that successful capitalists/bankers would manage to keep their wealth intact. But they don't seem to, beyond a few generations.

"So where has all this former wealth gone to?" we ask ourselves.

"Into the shady underworld", say the conspiracy theorists.

 

[Hygro]

It's strange though. You'd think that successful capitalists/bankers would manage to keep their wealth intact. But they don't seem to, beyond a few generations.

"So where has all this former wealth gone to?" we ask ourselves.

"Into the shady underworld", say the conspiracy theorists.

When really it's just split amongst an increasing number of less-successful offspring while your competition races on by.

 

[Borachio]

Indeed. That's the way with any family business, they say. The first generation guy starts it all off, the second expands it, and the third fritters it all away.

 

[warpus]

I think they own Subway.

 

[Borachio]

Founders: Fred Deluca and Peter Buck. Owners: Doctor's Associates, Inc (!!!).

(Sad person that I am, I looked it up.)

Plainly nothing to do with the Rothschilds. But everything to do with the Time Lords.

 

[sophie]

Indeed. That's the way with any family business, they say. The first generation guy starts it all off, the second expands it, and the third fritters it all away.

Or: first generation guy starts it all off, second generation fritters it all away, third generation reignites the business/crown bringing the slumping enterprise to hitherto unreached heights.

 

[Archbob]

So are we all in agreement that this "illuminati rules the world theory" is hogwash?

 

[Borachio]

Or: first generation guy starts it all off, second generation fritters it all away, third generation reignites the business/crown bringing the slumping enterprise to hitherto unreached heights.

That's possible, I guess.

I don't think it's very common, though. But, who knows, it may be. I just don't think we tend to get to hear about those which do that.

I think the take home message is that entrepreneurship may not be an inheritable trait. Or maybe a comfortable upbringing mitigates against its expression.

 

[sophie]

That's possible, I guess.

I don't think it's very common, though. But, who knows, it may be. I just don't think we tend to get to hear about those which do that.

I think the take home message is that entrepreneurship may not be an inheritable trait. Or maybe a comfortable upbringing mitigates against its expression.

I'd say it's fairly common in monarchies:

Edwards I, II, and III, for example

I think you have it with the last statement. Why bother learning how to be competent when you're given everything from the start?

 

[gay_Aleks]

So are we all in agreement that this "illuminati rules the world theory" is hogwash?

Of course it's hogwash. I think it's universally agreed the lizardfolk are controlling the world.

 

[tetley]

Not I. I have no reason to believe there is no such thing as an illuminati (or was) and that they are/were trying to control the world. And although I find it highly unlikely that they are completely successful, it's possible they do control some things, and I would hardly call it "hogwash". No one has proven there isn't one. And I don't get too hung up on the name--so what if it's a coterie of power whores who simply go by a different name.

 

[plarq]

I think Freemasonry conspiracy is better. At least we know that George Washington is a freemason.

 

[Graceheart the Leopard]

The Rothschilds were famous for spending their money on hospitals, homeless shelters, charities, and other philanthropic projects. Maybe we should let the Rothschilds run everything.

 

[Kyriakos]

Of course we should, it is a known fact that those benevolent oligarchs are the only positive factor of humanity. The little folk will just kill each other anyway, those maggots...

 

[Hygro]

The Rothschilds were famous for spending their money on hospitals, homeless shelters, charities, and other philanthropic projects. Maybe we should let the Rothschilds run everything.

The illuminati was famous for promoting science and rational thought.

 

[Borachio]

I'd say it's fairly common in monarchies:

Edwards I, II, and III, for example

Ah, right. I hadn't thought of those three.

 

[Terxpahseyton]

The things is, from what I gather there in deed are o more or less 'sinister' networks of people more or less successfully pulling strings. And they do have quit the tendency to represent the interests of the capital to some extend.
One may for instance think of the positions hold or held by former Goldman Sachs employees (reaching up the American minister of finances or the head of the European Central Bank or the head of the Italian government etcetera). Or in Germany we have a council of economic advisers, consisting of four economists, of which currently three belong to organizations which in turn are basically sub-divisions of organizations representing the interests of employers.

There seem to be all kinds of such networks out there. But there is no reason to think that they are all-powerful. They aren't even very secret. Yet they also seem to mostly fly under the radar of established media outlets an it isn't really known what influence such networks may sway, just as it is often not really known what exactly happens behind the scenes of our governments in general.

I guess it is just as with the thunder and the stone-age-man. You fill a gap of knowledge with an all-powerful unified entity.