Angelscotboi
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theres no one left for me... 
i wanted to join in too, serves me rite for being slow... 
RTORNES 4- Alexander the Great
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theres no one left for me... i wanted to join in too, serves me rite for being slow... 
The Troquelet
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"Israel is run by an idiot".
As opposed to Florida.
But you're right, this all belongs in OT, so it never happened
As opposed to Florida.
But you're right, this all belongs in OT, so it never happened
uknemesis
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lol sorry to go back OT but I can't stand idiots(sorry lol, when I get annoyed about people being biased, I don't give a damn if I insult someone).
Israel is supported by the USA because all the damned nations around it want to destroy it. Israel is a democracy, very few of the nations around it are. The Western world supports the freedom of democracy, and I for one am one of many who believe in the right of a nation and a people to exist. The nations around Israel want to take that right away, and in all likelyhood murder the Jews in cold blood due to the hatred between them.
We fund them to stop that happening, and thank god - a massacre like that would shame the human race, and probably plunge us all into a true horrific holy war.
The Palestinians I will not comment on - BOTH sides have done things they shouldn't.
As for Israel being run by an idiot, what would you do? Innocent people are being blown to pieces by terrorists - you have to respond, but if you give the Palestinians their own land they will think they have won - you will have given into terror and then they will begin another terror campaign to get Jerusalem itself as their land! Innocents die on both sides, but you cannot give into terror, and you cannot see a way to halt the killings other than military action. So that is what he did.
And Erez, liking a nation because they're the only one with the power or reason to destroy another nation is sick, not just because the Chinese are run by a Politburo NOT ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE. This means the normal Chinese people do not get a say in their government! As for killing America, then who would act as the world's policeman? No one, and you'd have even more wars erupting, and the Arab nations around Israel invading it with renewed vigour, determined to destroy Israel once and for all.
As for liking the Communist government of China, it's the only one in the world as far as I know that orders the murder of any child after the first-born in hospitals. A woman gets pregnant again after her first child, goes into hospital to deliver it, and as its head appears, they stab a needle into it and inject a poison into it.
Really modern nation that! It's a ghastly practice that belongs in the Dark Ages, and as for being a Communist state surviving, the only thing Communist they've kept is their Politburo(basically everything anti-democratic). In every other sense they are becoming capitalist.
Basically, between the pair of you you came out with some rubbish and some prejudice... Not bad...
lol better continue this in OT, sorry got annoyed lol...
Nemesis
Israel is supported by the USA because all the damned nations around it want to destroy it. Israel is a democracy, very few of the nations around it are. The Western world supports the freedom of democracy, and I for one am one of many who believe in the right of a nation and a people to exist. The nations around Israel want to take that right away, and in all likelyhood murder the Jews in cold blood due to the hatred between them.
We fund them to stop that happening, and thank god - a massacre like that would shame the human race, and probably plunge us all into a true horrific holy war.
The Palestinians I will not comment on - BOTH sides have done things they shouldn't.
As for Israel being run by an idiot, what would you do? Innocent people are being blown to pieces by terrorists - you have to respond, but if you give the Palestinians their own land they will think they have won - you will have given into terror and then they will begin another terror campaign to get Jerusalem itself as their land! Innocents die on both sides, but you cannot give into terror, and you cannot see a way to halt the killings other than military action. So that is what he did.
And Erez, liking a nation because they're the only one with the power or reason to destroy another nation is sick, not just because the Chinese are run by a Politburo NOT ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE. This means the normal Chinese people do not get a say in their government! As for killing America, then who would act as the world's policeman? No one, and you'd have even more wars erupting, and the Arab nations around Israel invading it with renewed vigour, determined to destroy Israel once and for all.
As for liking the Communist government of China, it's the only one in the world as far as I know that orders the murder of any child after the first-born in hospitals. A woman gets pregnant again after her first child, goes into hospital to deliver it, and as its head appears, they stab a needle into it and inject a poison into it.
Really modern nation that! It's a ghastly practice that belongs in the Dark Ages, and as for being a Communist state surviving, the only thing Communist they've kept is their Politburo(basically everything anti-democratic). In every other sense they are becoming capitalist.
Basically, between the pair of you you came out with some rubbish and some prejudice... Not bad...
lol better continue this in OT, sorry got annoyed lol...
Nemesis
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The West supports freedom and democracy, sure - except in Saudi Arabia. Touche #2.
As for the P-I conflict there is no solution. Both sides are too arrogant to compromise - look at the Oslo Accords! What could Palestine want more than that? But turned down - because of arrogance.
"It's a ghastly practice that belongs in the Dark Ages"
And the future. That, or better contraception and REAL sex education. But otherwise it will be inevitable.
And calling China Communist is like calling Nazi Germany Socialist. It kept the name, sure, but essentially it is a totalitarian state - which is as much as possible the OPPOSITE of ideal communism.
And here it ENDS. EQandCiv deserves better than having his thread hijacked by me you and Erez
As for the P-I conflict there is no solution. Both sides are too arrogant to compromise - look at the Oslo Accords! What could Palestine want more than that? But turned down - because of arrogance.
"It's a ghastly practice that belongs in the Dark Ages"
And the future. That, or better contraception and REAL sex education. But otherwise it will be inevitable.
And calling China Communist is like calling Nazi Germany Socialist. It kept the name, sure, but essentially it is a totalitarian state - which is as much as possible the OPPOSITE of ideal communism.
And here it ENDS. EQandCiv deserves better than having his thread hijacked by me you and Erez
unless of cuorse you qant to take this to another tjread, i debated through an entire hurricane once with my brother nonstop. I think we should make a thread for this somewhere to continue out discussion.
uknemesis
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The USA has to mess with Indonesia cause they're helping terrorists who killed innocent people in Bali.
As for a monarchist, a monarchist is someone who supports a monarchy, a King or Queen ruling a nation(Britain is a constitutional monarchy).
Someone who dreams that they can rule the world is called a megalomaniac, or something similar to that.
Anyway, this NES is about a person like that, so this in on topic
Nemesis
erez87
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indonesia dosn't suport terorist to blow herself (think about it) it's bin-laden... i hate him too, he kills too much...
oh i'll check in hebrew about the long word about my dream...
well i'll need to wait and see if this person want rome... i wander iif he will...
oh i'll check in hebrew about the long word about my dream...
well i'll need to wait and see if this person want rome... i wander iif he will...
NES starts today in a couple of hours. I have to finish a report then pick up some film. Then we can begin the NES.
Here's the map for RTOR4. Stats will come tomorrow and we can begin (finally).
erez, I hate to tell you but i decided to remove China from the NES as they were not too relevant to the period. Instead the nation of Cyrenaica has replaced it. Here's the key for nations of the map:
Red: Rome
Light Blue: Carthage
Pink: Cyrenaica
Grey: Sparta
Brown: Athens
Orange: Macedonia
Greenish sort of color: Persia
Purple: India
erez, I hate to tell you but i decided to remove China from the NES as they were not too relevant to the period. Instead the nation of Cyrenaica has replaced it. Here's the key for nations of the map:
Red: Rome
Light Blue: Carthage
Pink: Cyrenaica
Grey: Sparta
Brown: Athens
Orange: Macedonia
Greenish sort of color: Persia
Purple: India
Revolutionairy
President for life
The Spartan army was of the highest quality in the world. Each man and woman grew up in an atmosphere of training for war. The army while powerful only could train troops from a small area no matter how highly populated. The order had come to set sail across the Ionian Sea to the Isle of Scilly.
The men had prepared for this voyage for many a day and as the last of the grey sails of Sparta disappeared over the horizon, the High King Therapne thought over the beginnings of Sparta.
Sparta was founded by Lacedaemon, son of Zeus and Taygete, who called the city after the name of his wife, the daughter of Eurotas. The city of Eurotas was now the capital of the Sparta realm and now covered a huge region. It was after a visit to the temple to Zeus that Therapne decided that the code of Sparta must be spared. A league of Greeks would ensure that each city-state would be able to keep its independence while preparing for the war against the Persians, which would surely come.
To all nations of Greece
A league of Greeks would ensure that we could defend ourselves and fight for the Greeks who live off the coast of Asia Minor.
Orders
Send settlers to Scilly
Make sure standards of the Spartan army are kept at the highest level
The men had prepared for this voyage for many a day and as the last of the grey sails of Sparta disappeared over the horizon, the High King Therapne thought over the beginnings of Sparta.
Sparta was founded by Lacedaemon, son of Zeus and Taygete, who called the city after the name of his wife, the daughter of Eurotas. The city of Eurotas was now the capital of the Sparta realm and now covered a huge region. It was after a visit to the temple to Zeus that Therapne decided that the code of Sparta must be spared. A league of Greeks would ensure that each city-state would be able to keep its independence while preparing for the war against the Persians, which would surely come.
To all nations of Greece
A league of Greeks would ensure that we could defend ourselves and fight for the Greeks who live off the coast of Asia Minor.
Orders
Send settlers to Scilly
Make sure standards of the Spartan army are kept at the highest level
erez87
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<"Greenish sort of color">: Persia
^ this sound funny to me...
The roman republic have never been so active since rome at first opened and united all seven hills. senators, tribunes and many more came to vote what to do next. the idea was to reunit all nations of italy under the roman republic. the word have been given and slave-settlers have been sented to build up settleings in northern italy. the first settling should be called vinece.
also the city of napoli should be built in southern italy to secure the southern seas.
the first men were just came to the army and the first and onlt legion have been built to watch the city of rome. all the soldeirs were roman-citizens, loyal and ready to give their life for rome.
a political man have been sented to th greek area to contact with the two great cities of athens and sparta, and start working with them togheter to secure the mediterian from any risk of persia rule.
the first "elite" senator have been chosen and the orders for the settling and the building of the first legion have been sent.
"Orders to the poeple of Rome"
1) send slaves to build cities in northern italy.
2) build ONE city in southern italy (do not settle the whole area!) that will be called Napoli.
3) recruite the first legion.
4) set trade and diplomatics talks with athens and sparta.
To Athens:
Great Helenists! we wish to help you in your war against the brutual persia, becouse if you are taken what will stop them from taking us out?
To sparta:
Great wariars! we wish the same with athens...
^ this sound funny to me...
The roman republic have never been so active since rome at first opened and united all seven hills. senators, tribunes and many more came to vote what to do next. the idea was to reunit all nations of italy under the roman republic. the word have been given and slave-settlers have been sented to build up settleings in northern italy. the first settling should be called vinece.
also the city of napoli should be built in southern italy to secure the southern seas.
the first men were just came to the army and the first and onlt legion have been built to watch the city of rome. all the soldeirs were roman-citizens, loyal and ready to give their life for rome.
a political man have been sented to th greek area to contact with the two great cities of athens and sparta, and start working with them togheter to secure the mediterian from any risk of persia rule.
the first "elite" senator have been chosen and the orders for the settling and the building of the first legion have been sent.
"Orders to the poeple of Rome"
1) send slaves to build cities in northern italy.
2) build ONE city in southern italy (do not settle the whole area!) that will be called Napoli.
3) recruite the first legion.
4) set trade and diplomatics talks with athens and sparta.
To Athens:
Great Helenists! we wish to help you in your war against the brutual persia, becouse if you are taken what will stop them from taking us out?
To sparta:
Great wariars! we wish the same with athens...
Revolutionairy
President for life
When are the info for our nations going to be posted?
Jason The King
Deity
Philip the Great studdied the map of the known world. Macedonia, under Alexander, and Sparta where his neighbors. The great navy of Athens had conquered the Meditteranean Sea for Athens, creating absolute power of the seas. His army was also that of rivalring Sparta in size, but less trained. He made up his mind for the next years, on what the budget of Athens should go to.
He also was aware of the Spartish race to get to Italy, a distant land to the west. Philip was angry with the cockyness (sp? lol) of the Spartan ruler, who thought he could form colonies before his magesty. Philip would show him how superior the Athenian Navy was compared to the Spartan.
Orders
Increase Navy size
Train Army
Send Settlers to Sicily before Sparta
He also was aware of the Spartish race to get to Italy, a distant land to the west. Philip was angry with the cockyness (sp? lol) of the Spartan ruler, who thought he could form colonies before his magesty. Philip would show him how superior the Athenian Navy was compared to the Spartan.
Orders
Increase Navy size
Train Army
Send Settlers to Sicily before Sparta
i guess im Cyrenaica.
<To All Sea Fareing Nations> The Nation of Cyrenaica wishes to have peacefull relations with all of you.
<To Greek City States> If you guys form in a Greecian alliance against the Persians, be sure to inclue us, Remeber we are all of Greek decendence.
While resting in his palace in Euhesperides. The mighty King thought of ways to keep his humble kingdom free.
Orders.
Send settlers to the Pillars of Hercules.
<To All Sea Fareing Nations> The Nation of Cyrenaica wishes to have peacefull relations with all of you.
<To Greek City States> If you guys form in a Greecian alliance against the Persians, be sure to inclue us, Remeber we are all of Greek decendence.
While resting in his palace in Euhesperides. The mighty King thought of ways to keep his humble kingdom free.
Orders.
Send settlers to the Pillars of Hercules.
Just to inform you all, some of you do not have contact with others. I would wait for stats tomorrow if i were you.
Revolutionairy
President for life
Phillip the world is great and so are we. We should not bicker over a small Island. Your kingdom is bigger than mine why shouldn't I bulid a colony free from interfearence
Jason The King
Deity
Sparta,
My kingdom is not too superior to your own. We wish for colonies as well, and Sicily seems more suited to Athenian dominance, since it take a navy to guard the routes to there and back, and lets face it the Spartan navy is nothing to boast about. I sauggest you colonize to the north of Macedonia, and that small sea route will be more then easy to guard with your own navy.
Also, you may try the African coast. While this is still far from your shores, I pledge to you the protection of the Athenian Royal Navy. I ask you to not settle Sicily.
Athens
My kingdom is not too superior to your own. We wish for colonies as well, and Sicily seems more suited to Athenian dominance, since it take a navy to guard the routes to there and back, and lets face it the Spartan navy is nothing to boast about. I sauggest you colonize to the north of Macedonia, and that small sea route will be more then easy to guard with your own navy.
Also, you may try the African coast. While this is still far from your shores, I pledge to you the protection of the Athenian Royal Navy. I ask you to not settle Sicily.
Athens
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