SCOTUS Nomination II: I Like Beer

[Broken_Erika]

FWIW I am probably seen as understating that because I am a dinosaur from an age where it was a whole lot worse than I think it is currently.

Like in the 1950's where if a woman got raped and reported it to the police she'd get arrested and charged with prostitution and her family and friends would disown her for being a dirty filthy prostitute....

 

[hobbsyoyo]

There were honor killings, honor rapes, forced familial separation where they ship the girl off . They would also confiscate and forcibly adopt out the child of rape that she bore - this latter point was especially prelevant in Ireland where entire nunneries were devoted to essentially baby snatching for adoption money from wealthy American and British adopters.

 

[Sommerswerd]

Well, some of the "back then" was actually yesterday...errrr...today...ummm...now.

I think that may be another part of Kavanaugh's dilemma as well.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

So, next on the fun things list...CNN has a letter written by Kavanaugh in high school to his friends...the guy who said that the senate would have to ask Mark Judge if he was the "Bart O'Kavanaugh" depicted in Judge's book...and the letter is signed "Bart."

 

[Synobun]

So, next on the fun things list...CNN has a letter written by Kavanaugh in high school to his friends...the guy who said that the senate would have to ask Mark Judge if he was the "Bart O'Kavanaugh" depicted in Judge's book...and the letter is signed "Bart."

Typical liberal talking point. Sad.

 

[Broken_Erika]

So, next on the fun things list...CNN has a letter written by Kavanaugh in high school to his friends...the guy who said that the senate would have to ask Mark Judge if he was the "Bart O'Kavanaugh" depicted in Judge's book...and the letter is signed "Bart."

You want to talk about Emails?

 

[cardgame]

No, see, these ones are relevant

also just regular mail

 

[Broken_Erika]

No, see, these ones are relevant

also just regular mail

 

[cardgame]

butheremails

*knocks on door*

Hi, do you have a moment to talk about the state of democracy in post-2016 America?

resident:

 

[Broken_Erika]

I originally wanted my pic to be an animated gif but i didn't know how to edit it.
This is the original gif.

Spoiler :

 

[innonimatu]

As has already been discussed at length, the only thing that sets Dr Ford apart from tens of millions of other sexual abuse survivors is that her abuser happens to be a supreme court nominee. No one has suggested, other than your ilk in your 'why not' questioning, that taking her case to the justice system would accomplish anything, ever. Like the rest of those tens of millions she would have been told "nothing we can do for you" and sent on her way. So in that regard, YES, her case is special, and what makes it special is the politics surrounding her abuser.

That fact in no way excuses him. I've been invited to run for office. I've been offered substantial financial support for a campaign. I have every reason to think I would very likely win...except that I know I have things in my past that if they came up, which they likely would, would make me ineligible. My solution is not the Kavanaugh "go for it anyway and hope any accusers are discounted" method or the Trump "pay them hush money" method, I just don't run. Kavanaugh had that choice, and it is his choice that has created this political confrontation.

Why is it "Dr. Ford" and "Kavanaugh" for you? Why not Ford and Kavanaugh? Or "Dr. Ford" and "Judge Kavanaugh"? Manipulation of sentiments, to induce the idea that one is more trustworthy ("a doctor!") than the other. Politics 101. And that has been done in the media to start with.
Why is Ford a "victim" if all she has is an allegation? If I start stating that you raped me, do I automatically become "a victim"? She is an accuser. Whether her accusation is true or false will probably be impossible to put to rest. She is also a liar. She lied about being afraid to fly, she lied about the setting for the therapy story, those are two lies she was caught in already. She has also not made available so far, for the public to check, her alleged therapist notes.
But is it not politically correct to call her a liar, so everyone is tip-toeing around these facts. Poor woman must be a victim, might have been false memories, and so on... no, the most likely explanation is that she is a liar, plain and simple. Is it taboo to say that is likely because she has claimed the status of "victim"?

It's not like you haven't been told and explained at length how this is not a criminal proceeding. Yet you continue to misconstrue it as one in order to pretend that we all should adhere to some impossible standard of evidence for what amounts to a job interview. That is manipulative. You are a manipulator.

You keep pretending that this won't have an impact on the standards of judgment and behavior in court. That's false. What is done in the legislative chambers of a nation will influence court decisions, even those things that do not get codified in law.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Tells us some more about how unfair the US has been to Assange.

Please take the strawmanning, gaslighting and arguing in plain old fashion bad faith elsewhere.

 

[Broken_Erika]

Everything else this administration has done has been a circus, why should the hearing be any different?

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Why is it "Dr. Ford" and "Kavanaugh" for you? Why not Ford and Kavanaugh?

Because her name has four letters and his is too damn long to be typed out as many times as his rotten behavior has made it necessary to type it out.

 

[JollyRoger]

With all the snowflakes involved with him, we should call him Blizzard Kavanaugh

 

[BenitoChavez]

i thought the opinion of a false memory expert was of interest... warning, the interviewer is obviously somewhere between hannity and hitler but i thought the expert had some good points regarding false memories...

I listened to the interview too and it seemed like a plausible scenario where Ford might be conflating multiple memories. Whether or not that is actually the case can't be determined with what we currently know but they came up with some good follow-up questions that I hope the FBI investigation would ask. The TED talk she gave was especially interesting to me as I didn't know how distorted some memories can get.

 

[Synobun]

Pulling on that thread is neat and all but you do realize that argument discredits the defense too, right?

 

[Ajidica]

I always find Benjamin Wittes' articles interesting and I think he did a good job putting in context everything we know about Brett Kavanaugh and his thoughts on what this means going forward.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/why-i-wouldnt-confirm-brett-kavanaugh/571936/

EDIT: I also love the latest "angry drunk frat bro" story about Kavanaugh is getting drunk and starting a bar fight with a guy he thought was the singer for UB40. (And, of course, their most famous song is about wine.)

 

[BenitoChavez]

Pulling on that thread is neat and all but you do realize that argument discredits the defense too, right?

It sure does.

 

[JollyRoger]

Trump should bring up the Central Park 5 as an example of false rape accusations gone wrong.