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I was thinking of a different discrimination, that would affect Tanacius.
Screaming Children Will NOT Be Tolerated!: Age discrimination?
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I was thinking of a different discrimination, that would affect Tanacius.
GhostWriter16
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Luckymoose
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If the parent wasn't looking you should just clothesline the kid as he runs at you. Drop him and bail.
It wasn't directed at him specifically, his quote only provided the best opportunity to show what this "they can do what they want with their business" which was espoused by multiple posters can lead to.
carmen510
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If you are disruptive, the restaurant has the right to remove you from its premises. I'm not too sure about preemptively excluding people though.
Bestbank Tiger
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Exactly. A loud, obnoxious adult should get the boot. A well-behaved child should be allowed to stay.
LucyDuke
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I'm fine with banning young people from anywhere, whether or not they are screaming. And ama's right, it is discrimination, but it's good discrimination. I'd definitely be more likely to frequent a restaurant where I could count on no children and especially no screaming children.
I really don't understand why society is so forgiving of screaming children and their apathetic parents.
I really don't understand why society is so forgiving of screaming children and their apathetic parents.
carmen510
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On a side note, we could have a segregated section in restaurants (like a non-smoking section) for children (and their parents/guardians), so that they can stay while others dine in peace.
This concept would also work very well for airlines.
This concept would also work very well for airlines.
It IS discrimination, and it IS a good thing. The problem is that the word 'discrimination' has its negative connotations, ergo people do not believe that this incident involves discrimination.
Some people here say that it is the screaming that is the issue, and that they would toss a screaming adult out the window if there was one. Personally, I have never seen a screaming adult at an ordinary restaurant (at a bar, maybe, at a normal restaurant, NO), and I doubt that most people have ever seen the same. The only humans that scream considerably and indiscriminately, are either young kids/infants, and mentally ill people.
Furthermore, there has always been the right, granted to the restaurants, to throw out anyone who poses a nuisance. Screaming is accounted for ALREADY. Brawling is accounted for ALREADY. For any other sort of destructive behavior, the restaurant could have taken care of it before this issue was even brought up. Why prohibit people under 6? Well, that's where MOST (not all) of the incidents emanate from.
Frankly, I feel like I've made my point. This is a healthy discrimination that can and should be practiced where appropriate. Fancy restaurant? Yes. Movie theatre? Where applicable (don't ban from 'G' movies). McDonalds? No, I don't think age discrimination would suffice there. You all get my point.
Some people here say that it is the screaming that is the issue, and that they would toss a screaming adult out the window if there was one. Personally, I have never seen a screaming adult at an ordinary restaurant (at a bar, maybe, at a normal restaurant, NO), and I doubt that most people have ever seen the same. The only humans that scream considerably and indiscriminately, are either young kids/infants, and mentally ill people.
Furthermore, there has always been the right, granted to the restaurants, to throw out anyone who poses a nuisance. Screaming is accounted for ALREADY. Brawling is accounted for ALREADY. For any other sort of destructive behavior, the restaurant could have taken care of it before this issue was even brought up. Why prohibit people under 6? Well, that's where MOST (not all) of the incidents emanate from.
Frankly, I feel like I've made my point. This is a healthy discrimination that can and should be practiced where appropriate. Fancy restaurant? Yes. Movie theatre? Where applicable (don't ban from 'G' movies). McDonalds? No, I don't think age discrimination would suffice there. You all get my point.
lordsurya08
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I disagree. Kids cry - it is intrinsic, but it can be controlled if the parent knows how to raise a kid.
As for the poll question, let me say this: anyone causing a problem should be disallowed. Age is irrelevant. Screaming adult gets the boot as well as screaming child.
Hygro
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Annoying kids can be such a good conversation topic for a date, though.
Whiskey_Lord
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I never pulled that crap as a kid. I was a mellow baby.
"Removing someone from the premises" once s/he has already become disruptive doesn't exactly solve anything from the POV of other customers whose lunch has been spoiled already. If anything, that is likely to add to the pandemonium.
Disgustipated
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I agree, most likely the parents will put up a fuss too. It's best to ban kids from restaurants all together. But almost no one would do it. Because kids mean more mouths to feed, and a higher bill. Families are their main source of income. No one cares about some single person eating alone.
warpus
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As someone who hates kids AND people who scream, I'm all on board for banning screaming kids from EVERYWHERE.
LucyDuke
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Kids meals aren't profitable. The higher bill from throwing in a couple grilled cheese sandwiches only matches the extra cost of those grilled cheese sandwiches. Kids don't help the bill at all. Considering how much less likely parents are to order alcohol than non-parents, I suspect that if families are "their main source of income", it's due to sheer volume, not the profitability of serving parties with children.
GhostWriter16
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I can understand it for R-rated movies (Not saying I agree with it) but anything else and it should be up to parents definitely...
How do you define "Kid?"
kramerfan86
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Its age discrimination if they ban all children of a certain age, but to just punish the screamers is common sense. Personally Id like no warning ejections but not child bans. Shockingly some parents have a good degree of control over their children so people shouldnt assume all 5 year olds are going to be trouble makers.
Again, 'where applicable' is really up to the movie theatre. I would not tolerate R-movies for obvious reasons. The theatres would use their discretion with the other rated movies. Personally, I think it's fine for a kid of any age to see a PG-13 movie; of course, ushers can throw out kids causing abominable behavior, but the movie theatres should enact their right to ban children of various ages as they see fit.
'Kid' should be defined by the businesses doing the discrimination. If Restaurant A says "We are prohibiting children under 6 years to maintain a pleasurable atmosphere" and Restaurant B says "We are prohibiting infants under 3 years to maintain a pleasurable atmosphere," that would be fine with me.
Now, I do NOT believe that every restaurant/movie theatre/other form of ANY business, will use age discrimination. Would a hotel use age discrimination? Heck no; they would lose many customers if they did so. Would an auto-parts store use age discrimination? Of course not; businesses will only use age discrimination if it serves their purposes of enhancing the size and/or loyalty of their customer base.
Final point: if age discrimination is universally adopted, businesses will naturally fall into usage of said discrimination, only if it serves their purposes; otherwise, unintelligent use of age discrimination would prove detrimental to the businesses themselves.
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