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Sever the Union?
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gay_Aleks
from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free!
Maybe if we reanimate Richard II, and then maybe one of the Stuarts?
gay_Aleks
from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free!
Caliphate, Union, Commonwealth, it's all the same.
gay_Aleks
from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free!
Maybe it's that time Cromwell waltzed into it and conquered it?
I just had an image of Cromwell waltzing in full armour.
Mise
isle of lucy
Federalism, yes. Regional governments with elected bodies, based on historic regions and modern NUTS 1 classification:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regions_of_England
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regions_of_England
- North East
- North West
- Yorkshire and the Humber
- East Midlands
- West Midlands
- East of England
- London
- South East
- South West
Ireland, Scotland, and Wales?
That would put an interesting twist on Constitutional reform and a whole host of other issues. Do any of those three places have any particular objection to gay marriage and abortion being legal? French being an official language?
How about Greenland and Iceland as well? Then you'd stretch right across the top of the Atlantic.
Borachio
Way past lunacy
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Federalism, yes. Regional governments with elected bodies, based on historic regions and modern NUTS 1 classification:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regions_of_England
- North East
- North West
- Yorkshire and the Humber
- East Midlands
- West Midlands
- East of England
- London
- South East
- South West
I'd welcome this. It's another layer of government between county and national level, though. So I'd expect the usual objections about expensive talking shops to arise. But these regions do have widely different characteristics and requirements, so I think there's a need for them.
Why not? We need more democracy, and engagement, not less of it.
Pangur Bán
Deconstructed
Federalism, yes. Regional governments with elected bodies, based on historic regions and modern NUTS 1 classification:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regions_of_England
- North East
- North West
- Yorkshire and the Humber
- East Midlands
- West Midlands
- East of England
- London
- South East
- South West
Not one of those is a historic region. I don't understand why you don't just resurrect medieval units. You could have Northumbria, Danelaw, Mercia, Wessex, and some kind of South-East region embracing Kent, Sussex & Surrey. They could have flags, they would have history & identity and wouldn't be bureaucratic monstrosities. Completely devolve law and administration, and each region will have to produce its own lawyers and crats, encouraging the formation of regional elites with distinct patronage circles, in turn keeping wealth & education in localities.
Pangur Bán
Deconstructed
In the twelfth century England was divided into four units, the Westsaxonlaw, the Mercianlaw, the Danelaw, and Northumbria. Just restore that, and Britain will be divided into units that are equitable on a mixture of geographic size, population and regional identity.
Could suggest something like this:
Northumbria: counties of Cumberland, Westmorland, Northumberland, Lancaster, Durham, York; capital, York
Danelaw: counties of Suffolk, Norfolk, Essex, Lincoln, Leicester, Huntingdon, Cambridge, Rutland, Nottingham, Derby, Essex; capital, Lincoln
Mercia: Gloucester, Hereford, Shropshire, Stafford, Chester, Warwick, Hertford, Bedford, Buckingham, Oxford, Middlesex; capital, Tamworth
Wessex: Hampshire, Wiltshire, Berkshire, Dorset, Somerset, Devon, Cornwall; capital, Winchester
Maybe have Kent, Sussex & Surrey in Wessex. Maybe make the 5 Boroughs a separate unit. You can play around, but England's regions need to be historic units with coherent identities otherwise English people will not develop enthusiasm for regional devolution.
Could suggest something like this:
Northumbria: counties of Cumberland, Westmorland, Northumberland, Lancaster, Durham, York; capital, York
Danelaw: counties of Suffolk, Norfolk, Essex, Lincoln, Leicester, Huntingdon, Cambridge, Rutland, Nottingham, Derby, Essex; capital, Lincoln
Mercia: Gloucester, Hereford, Shropshire, Stafford, Chester, Warwick, Hertford, Bedford, Buckingham, Oxford, Middlesex; capital, Tamworth
Wessex: Hampshire, Wiltshire, Berkshire, Dorset, Somerset, Devon, Cornwall; capital, Winchester
Maybe have Kent, Sussex & Surrey in Wessex. Maybe make the 5 Boroughs a separate unit. You can play around, but England's regions need to be historic units with coherent identities otherwise English people will not develop enthusiasm for regional devolution.
Iceland belongs to itself and Greenland belongs to Denmark. There's a tiny little island between Greenland and Canada that we've been arguing over with Denmark for some time now.
Given the fact that Viking colonists from Greenland had a camp in Newfoundland, it would make sense for us to have Greenland and that little island. Entirely apart from the issue of who controls the Northwest Passage of course, plus the celebrations because they finally found the Franklin Expedition.
We should grab Saint Pierre and Miquelon, though. It really doesn't make a lot of sense to have France camped out on our Atlantic doorstep like that.
Mise
isle of lucy
...what?Pangur Bán;13471881 said:
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
Presumably it makes sense for the French.
Well it seems obvious that some form of devolution of powers to England will have to occur. There's no way the Scots (and Labor) can argue for even further devolution to Scotland but keeping Scottish MPs voting on English matters. It's a totally indefensible position.
Fish and oil.Presumably it makes sense for the French.
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