SGOTM6 - Team barbslinger

[chunkymonkey]

I'm not sure that Edo will automatically encompass the salt after the capture of Karachi, but the settler on the salt idea sounds more feasible and probably more workable. A whole bunch of knights (cavs) and trebs fortified in the city should be good enough to hold it. Pillaging the indian roads surrounding Karachi should stop the elephants.

Unless this is a short term measure... in which case we can just plonk the settler down on the salt and have all our knights ready to upgrade that turn. Seems a bit exploitative though...

 

[M60A3TTS]

I'm not sure that Edo will automatically encompass the salt after the capture of Karachi

I'm not sure myself, but we're better off not taking a chance.

 

[barbslinger]

Unless this is a short term measure... in which case we can just plonk the settler down on the salt and have all our knights ready to upgrade that turn. Seems a bit exploitative though...

I don't think it is that exploitive. If Vanadorn was writing the story it would be that our knights have been training for months, we have the rifles and we just need the ammo. We force our way to some ammo and off they go.

On a side note I am leaving on a flight to Turkey tomorrow morning 8pst and will not be able to play until at least Monday night in Turkey. If my turns come up during the weekend I will need a swap. I will contact this thread when I get internet access there.

 

[tomasjj]

I think we can go for the indian saltpeter. I dont think it is exploitative. We do take a risk.
Who is up?
El Filet I think.

You there, el?

 

[el_filet]

i got it and made it trought the opening turn. my defect pc kept me busy for hours, but it appears i got the problem now, so this one should be up today.

 

[el_filet]

850 AD (0):
switch entremont to uni to avoid shield wasting (needs 4 shields for knight...)
partrush some culture

IBT:
gandhi&hammi want to allie agains viks->decline
renew incense deal with joan
babs unload bow close to beijing

860 AD (1):
with viks far away, give them peace for 20 gpt

IBT:
india and viks sign peace
babs sneak attack us
india starts magellan

870 AD (2):
embassy in london shows 4 reg musket, most buildings, 26 gpt; salt, iron, horse + 5 lux
give england dyes&WM for alliance against babs

IBT:
iros want to trade WM->decline
MT->physics

IBT:
iros start smith

IBT:
hannibal wants MA against viks
english and french suggest TM trade->no
boot from japan
japanese start smith

900 AD (5):
declare and land troops in india

IBT:
america and japan MA agains viks

910 AD (6):
mass upgrade to cav

IBT:
we lose 2 units against WE
indians start adam

IBT:
abe sneak attacks us
carthage and india allie against us

IBT:
french start smith
india has a surprisingly strong force in northern jungle

940 AD (9):
capture indus->temple
lose 3 cav capturing karachi

IBT:
indians start smith
we'll lose carthaga novo


notes:
we can make some money selling MT around

http://gotm.civfanatics.net/saves/sgotm6/Barbslinger_SG006_AD0950_01.SAV

 

[M60A3TTS]

Two sneak attacks against us in that turn set? So much for "plays well with others"

 

[TimBentley]

I'm back. Is it my turn now?

 

[M60A3TTS]

Go for it, Tim.

@ all: I posted our spoiler info in the appropriate thread if you care to review it.

 

[TimBentley]

I got it. I should play tonight (edit: and finish tomorrow).

 

[chunkymonkey]

Thanks for writing up the spoiler M60. Wow, some teams really did go in for the kill didn't they!

Good luck Tim

 

[TimBentley]

950(0)-Swap tiles to get Gergovia to 12spt, Entremont to 20spt
other MMing was mostly switching 1-shield tiles to 2-shield tiles
7 whips

Get 8gpt, 134g in WM sales
Abandon Carthago Novo
raise science to 100%
Decided not to give other civs cavs yet

IBT-America drops off a spear, war elephant kills cav
Iroquois starts Magellan's

960(1)-5 whips
start WLTKD in Curovernum
Anyang is in imminent danger; get 20g for peace from India
start sending troops for attack on Iroquois
pick up 17g selling WM

970(2)-5 whips

IBT-learn physics, start on ToG

980(3)-4 whips
Get Rusguniae for peace with Carthage
It's next to an American crusader; abandon it
get 184g selling WM (mostly from Carthage)

IBT-Babylon drops off longbowman

990(4)-1 whip

IBT-Japan, France, Iroquois, India start Shakespeare's

1000(5)-2 whips
I didn't realize free artistry getting sold around would make people broke (Japan in particular)

1010(6)-get 39g, 3gpt, WM for peace with America
3 whips
Declare war on Iroquois
Capture Carthage without loss

IBT-No Iroquois counterattack

1020(7)-Capture Utica without loss
1 whip
IBT-Iroquois response is only running away

1030(8)-lose two cavs at Theveste, lose one cav capturing Leptis Minor
Found New Nemausus, start on temple
Everybody knows MT already (I guess I delayed too long)
sell physics to Japan for 238gpt, 277g
sell it to India for 130gpt
sell it to France for 44gpt, WM
sell it to England for 3gpt, wines, WM
get 11g selling WM
science at 100%, making over 100gpt IIRC

1040(9)-lose one or two cavs capturing Theveste
Capture Cadiz without loss
6 whips
Japanese troops in Iroquois land are annoying

IBT-Carthage, Vikings sign peace
Tours builds Magellan's Voyage
Iroquois, India, cascade to Shake's

1050(10)-Found New Curovernum, start on temple

Notes: I haven't done any whipping this turn, look at Iol (yes, it's unhappy), Cadiz, New Verulamium, and Axima
Forest that tundra near Gergovia to get it to 14spt
Troops are in Theveste for next player to move
Iroquois hasn't shown much resistance; had I known that, I wouldn't have been afraid to give them cavs
I believe the incense deal with France just expired; renew or end it
The northern caravel can transport settlers to that two-tile island and that other nearby penisula

Here is the save.

 

[chunkymonkey]

Cool, good start on Iroquois. They'll probably be a little more resisty once we enter their homeland.

Japan are pretty angry with us for some reason. Not looking forward to sharing a long border with a cavalry wielding Japan . I guess we'll need to decide what our strategy is after Iroquois. Two obvious targets: India and Japan. India will be easier, but perhaps if we declare on Japan first then we can get India's help. But it will be tough.

I estimate we probably have somewhere in the region of 70 turns before we win, so it depends really. We still have plenty of space on which we can settle peacefully and rush temples and libs, so we could always just go through Iroquois + India and just sit back for the remaining turns...

Dunno really

 

[M60A3TTS]

Nothing from barbslinger yet on Internet access, so I believe jj is up

 

[TimBentley]

I think we should start pulling out some workers in preparation for rails. I wish I had thought of this during my turns. I wouldn't be surprised if some settler builds are unwise; perhaps a worker would be better there.

 

[barbslinger]

Game looks good! I would love to play whıle here but they have odd electrıcal outlets here so I wıll have to waıt untıl Monday when I fly to Seattle. I am at an ınternet cafe.

Greetıngs from Istanbul!

 

[tomasjj]

I got it.
Sorry for the delay in picking it up.
I plan to play tomorrow sometime. If that doesnt work out I will post and most probably ask for a skip.
Hope that the team is cool with that. If not, please feel free to take my turn.
jj

 

[tomasjj]

I need a skip/swap as I wont be able to play today.
We actually, against all odds, got through to the next round in a footy tourno here, so I will have to play today.

Sorry for the delay.
jj

 

[M60A3TTS]

Not sure if I should go, as I'd jump over two people. Barbslinger would be up next, but can't play until Monday. Maybe if jj can play it Sunday, that would be simplest. Otherwise I suppose I can take it.

 

[chunkymonkey]

anyone out there?