SGOTM6 - Team barbslinger

[TimBentley]

OK, regot it.

 

[barbslinger]

Our bar graph looks really nice though. Keep up the expansion and war is in the mix soon for territory expansion

 

[barbslinger]

Just looked at the QSC results. Though we are leading in city count, which is nice, we are way back in contacts/diplomacy. We need to find those other civs. Do we have any curraughs out hunting?

 

[chunkymonkey]

We do have a curragh and galley out searching, but I noticed in my turnset they've been travelling at 1 tile per turn due to a bug in the biq file, so i asked AlanH to fix it, which he has. We should know more civs in the next few turns. I'm impressed with our QSC results too well done guys.

 

[TimBentley]

750(0)-MM Camulodunum for growth, MM Agedincum for gold, MM Tolosa for shields

IBT-Entremont warrior->warrior
Alesia library->warrior
Agedincum worker->worker

730(1)-whip temple in Cataractonium
turn off lux due to hooked up dye

IBT-Entremont warrior->worker
Cataractonium temple->worker

710(2)-see a purple border (Iroquois?)

IBT-Entremont worker->warrior
Alesia warrior->worker

690(3)-Meet Iroquois, see other edge of Carthage
They are broke and lack construction
raise lux to 10%

IBT-Japan, India sign peace
Entremont warrior->warrior
Alesia worker->warrior
Richborough worker->library
Verulamium worker->library
Iroquois start ToA

670(4)-zzz

IBT-learn currency, start on mono at minimum (for a second I was thinking of going for republic)
Entremont warrior->warrior
Camulodunum library->market
Gergovia settler->library

650(5)-whip temple in Eboracum (to avoid starvation or 50% lux)
It seems possible we're on the same landmass as Japan
Japan will pay all its gold for currency; I'll wait

IBT-Entremont warrior->market
Alesia warrior->settler
Agedincum worker->library
Eboracum temple->library

630(6)-zzz

IBT-Entremont warrior->warrior
Augustodurum granary->worker

610(7)-Galley sees another border

IBT-Carthage kicks out exploring warrior, curragh
Entremont warrior->warrior
Alesia warrior->market
Trondheim builds ToA

590(8)-Meet India; they have 88g, lack currency
Japan is in anarchy due to their recently discovered monarchy

IBT-China kicks our warrior out
Entremont warrior->warrior
Augustodurum worker->library
Japan starts Great Wall, Hanging Gardens
Carthage, China, India start Great Wall
Delhi builds Great Wall

570(9)-zzz

IBT-Entremont warrior->warrior
Lugdunum library->rax
Japan starts Hanging Gardens

550(10)-zzz

Notes: I think we're ready to start roading the iron
The settler should settle next to the lake

Here is the save.

 

[barbslinger]

Right on! More contacts! Should we get prebuilds rolling for cathedrals, JS Bach and Sistines? We look to be doing fairly well. If we time our GA we should be able to pull in both wonders and grab some more land.

 

[el_filet]

wonders don't help that much for 100k, but we could use bach for new cities. prebuilds for cath are a good idea, but i'd build libs first. with 3 lux we get more help from the libs, they cost less maintenance too.

 

[M60A3TTS]

Looking good. I believe JJ has it now.

 

[tomasjj]

I am up in another game too, and have lots of RL issues.
A switch would be nice.
-jj

 

[chunkymonkey]

OK JJ let us know when you feel up to it and we''ll insert you back in.

So who's gonna take it, barbslinger or el_filet? Let's keep it rolling, we're doing well.

 

[el_filet]

finished my other games this weekend, but couldn't get to this one. i'm not sure i can play tonight, will post in case i play.

took a quick look yesterday, we still have some spots to settle, but we'll need to go to war soon. a couple of warriors are around, i'll add some more. filling some of the better spots before preparing attack to chinese (or do we attack mongols/japanese?). they didn't got ToA, but still are the best target imo.

 

[chunkymonkey]

Yeah we need to get a move on with a bit of

But there's no need to rush and do this half-heartedly, we should create a decent stack of GS before we go and hit China. And whilst we're capturing we should be settling in the gaps, and building/whipping temples and libraries in the newly captured cities as priorities.

From now on we should never be at a stage where all our cities have both a temple and library. If they all do, then we should be settling/capturing more cities.

We might want to get the Mongols in on China to weaken them a little, since they're IMO the next logical target....

 

[barbslinger]

I can take it tonight if El Filet can not.
Looks like hooking up the iron and getting some GS to set up for war and GA. Keeping the culture building and hopefully get more contacts would be great also.

 

[el_filet]

playing now

 

[el_filet]

550 BC (0):
do some MM
switch camulodunum&lugdunum to settler (we need to build some, more then money. another rax can wait with entremont building warrior every turn)
37g for embassy in karakorum: size 2; settler next turn ; dyes, iron & horses; 4 spears; MoM

IBT:
boot from hannibal
entremont: warrior->warrior
ratae: temple->lib

530 BC (1):
hire scientist, science to 0
found Lindum->temple

IBT:
entremont: warrior->warrior
FP message
alesia: settler->market
cataractonium: worker->lib
lapardum: temple->lib

510 BC (2):
india& japan got monarchy (japan last turn too)

IBT:
entremont: warrior->warrior

IBT:
kicked out by hannibal
entremont: warrior->warrior

IBT:
hannibals boot again
entremont: warrior->warrior
lugdunum: settler->settler
gregovia: lib->settler
indians start HG

450 BC (5):
found Nemausus->temple

IBT:
entremont: warrior->warrior
niagara falls completes GW

IBT:
boot from mao
entremont: warrior->warrior
camulodurum: market->settler

410 BC (7):
move scientist to corrupt city

IBT:
boot from iros
pay japs 50g (avoid dogpile, not worth the trouble)
entremont: warrior->settler
gragovia: settler->market

390 BC (8):
found Curovernum->temple (will soon put more pressure on japanese cities)

IBT:
chinese settler pair moves toward richborough

370 BC (9):
whip lib

IBT:
camulodunum: settler->settler
augustodurum: lib->market
tolosa: temple->lib


notes:
suggest FP in ratae, enables us to move palace later
sent curragh back, hoping to find new civ. how did you knew it's a bay?
we have a stack of 11 vet warriors in alesia to upgrade, but iron isn't connected yet
started some mines on hills, takes forever but we'll need them
one settler ready to found in place (EDIT: the left one), one on way build fishing village
we still need market in entremont and rax somewhere

http://gotm.civfanatics.net/saves/sgotm6/Barbslinger_SG006_BC0350_01.SAV

 

[el_filet]

i'm the one who lost our scoring lead

well, barbslinger will correct that (since he can play, unless tomasjj is ready now)

 

[chunkymonkey]

i'm the one who lost our scoring lead

don't worry about that we're still matching or improving on our culture gradient compared to the other teams at this moment so thats all that matters. everything's looking good. haven't looked at the save but i think we're ready to go to war. lets upgrade!!!

barbslinger - itchy trigger fingers
JJ - hovering
M60
monkey
Tim
el fil - can rest for a while

 

[barbslinger]

i'm the one who lost our scoring lead

well, barbslinger will correct that (since he can play, unless tomasjj is ready now)

If tomasjj is ready I would rather wait. I am up in my AWE with about 60 cities to look at and that will take 1 or 2 nights.

 

[barbslinger]

On FP I really like Ratae due to liking the idea of jumping the palace somewhere else later. By later I mean after we have gained control of our continent and maybe after that. Jumping it around after that will dramatically speed up builds. I would wait to jump with a leader to the other continent after forming a well defended core over there. I saw no mention of the cash we have for Gallic upgrades but at single scientist I assume we have lots. I favor going after China now before they get to thier UU. The Rider is 4.3.2 while the Keshik is 4.2.2(ignore terrain). I do want to get Mongols involved in the war and then take them out right after. Hopefully we can pay tech and/or cash for the alliance so we get a minimal rep hit. I would really like to wipe both of them out during GA production of gallics with some markets completing too.

 

[el_filet]

iirc we have >600g. i tried to pay the mongols for a MA against the chinese, they refused even with us paying all we had back then. i guess that will change once we declared war.

i'm surprised about corruption. it's not that bad. i even thought about building some courts to make our outer cities productive.

we need more rax. i built markets in most core cities and changed them to settler to avoid wasting food for 8-6 cycle. suggest to poprush lib in richborough soon and build rax. spit out more warriors from entremont & alesia before iron is connected, we'll be on min. science for a while.