Sharia influence on English Vice

[JollyRoger]

Pornography produced in the UK was quietly censored today through an amendment to the 2003 Communications Act, and the measures appear to take aim at female pleasure.

The Audiovisual Media Services Regulations 2014 requires that video-on-demand (VoD) online porn now adhere to the same guidelines laid out for DVD sex shop-type porn by the British Board of Film Censors (BBFC).

"There appear to be no rational explanations for most of the R18 rules," Jerry Barnett of the anti-censorship group Sex and Censorship told Vice UK. "They're simply a set of moral judgements designed by people who have struggled endlessly to stop the British people from watching pornography."

More worryingly, the amendment seems to take issue with acts from which women more traditionally derive pleasure than men.

"The new legislation is absurd and surreal," Itziar Bilbao Urrutia, a dominatrix who produces porn with a feminist theme added to Vice UK. "I mean, why ban facesitting? What's so dangerous about it? It's a harmless activity that most femdom performers, myself included, do fully dressed anyway. Its power is symbolic: woman on top, unattainable."

The Department for Culture, Media & Sport insists the BBFC's R18 certificate is a "tried and tested" method for protecting children.

"The legislation provides the same level of protection to the online world that exists on the high street in relation to the sale of physical DVDs," a spokesperson told us.

"In a converging media world these provisions must be coherent, and the BBFC classification regime is a tried and tested system of what content is regarded as harmful for minors."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/a-long-list-of-sex-acts-just-got-banned-in-uk-porn-9897174.html

Among the acts subject to regulation and ban include spanking and caning, long components of traditional British culture.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=english+vice&defid=4095327

Given the many threads over the years here where posters are concerned about Sharia overtaking the UK, this may be fresh evidence that they may be onto something.

 

[Borachio]

Yes.

"Come, sit on my face, and tell me you love me".

Nice.

Er... what's that about sharia, again? I seem to have drifted off into reverie there. Just for a moment.

 

[JollyRoger]

Er... what's that about sharia, again?

Obviously, Sharia is against female empowerment.

Also:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/search.php?searchid=2652031

 

[Borachio]

Hmm. 19 threads in 9 years.

I really don't know what to say about this issue. It seems rather daft. I don't see that it's anything to do with female empowerment, though it may be.

 

[James Stuart]

Among the acts subject to regulation and ban include spanking and caning, long components of traditional British culture.

Post of the year, that. It does seem as if some of the restrictions are a bit sexist. Linking it to Sharia is ridiculous, but I suspect that's what you were going for.

 

[Takhisis]

If they're against spanking and caning then they're surely in favour of educational reform.

 

[Terxpahseyton]

But the English accent was the only thing which dignified my spanking porn!

 

[Takhisis]

You're the one wearing JollyRoger's cowboy boots, right?

 

[James Stuart]

But the English accent was the only thing which dignified my spanking porn!

Yes, when it is done with a German accent it's far less dignified.

 

[Smote]

Hmm. 19 threads in 9 years.

I really don't know what to say about this issue. It seems rather daft. I don't see that it's anything to do with female empowerment, though it may be.

Sharia law has everything to do with making women second to men. It legalizes sexism.

http://www.clarionproject.org/understanding-islamism/womens-rights-under-sharia

 

[bhsup]

Whether the regulations themselves are ridiculous is another argument entirely. Why should online porn get special dispensation to do things that physical media porn is prohibited from doing? This just seems to be leveling the playing field, nothing more. If y'all think the regulations themselves are wrong, then get them changed for everyone, not just one medium.

 

[JollyRoger]

So the number of lashes for violation should be the same for each method of distribution?

 

[Smote]

Yes, as long as it's the women that get lashed.

 

[JollyRoger]

Bhsup has been known to make paddles for governmental authorities, so he may be down for being on a deserved receiving end.

 

[Borachio]

Sharia law has everything to do with making women second to men. It legalizes sexism.

http://www.clarionproject.org/understanding-islamism/womens-rights-under-sharia

I agree.

But I was referring to sitting on people's faces. I'm not sure that has much to do with female empowerment.

Whether the regulations themselves are ridiculous is another argument entirely. Why should online porn get special dispensation to do things that physical media porn is prohibited from doing? This just seems to be leveling the playing field, nothing more. If y'all think the regulations themselves are wrong, then get them changed for everyone, not just one medium.

This was my reaction as well.

 

[Flying Pig]

Whether the regulations themselves are ridiculous is another argument entirely. Why should online porn get special dispensation to do things that physical media porn is prohibited from doing? This just seems to be leveling the playing field, nothing more. If y'all think the regulations themselves are wrong, then get them changed for everyone, not just one medium.

Yes, I think this is the point. People campaigning about it don't seem to have actually read the rules that are being changed. We have film classifications because we think it's harmful for children to see certain things, and because we don't think that certain things should be legal to disseminate at all on film. If the rules are good for physical media, they should be good for digital media - in fact, there's an argument for making them tougher for digital media, since children can access age-inappropriate things online much more easily than they can in real life. If they're not good, then they need to be changed across the board. Personally I'm not overly convinced by the idea of 'obscenity', but I do think there are some things that shouldn't be filmed. Snuff films are quite rightly illegal, and I think pornography which depicts rape could well fall into the same category. However, the fact that most people find a certain sort of pornography disgusting doesn't mean that the few people who like it shouldn't be allowed to watch it. There's also some leeway we need, I think - after all, we regularly buy and sell films and video games which depict and even glorify violent crime, so you could say that pornography depicting rape is more like Grand Theft Auto or a Guy Richie film than a film showing an actual murder.

 

[bhsup]

Bhsup has been know to make paddles for governmental authorities, so he may be down for being on a deserved receiving end.

Dear Lord, I obviously have, but I don't remember mentioning that paddle I made in 5th (6th? pretty sure 5th...) grade for the teacher. You, sir, have a wonderful memory.

 

[JollyRoger]

I count at least 7 times. Haven't seen anything about you making voluntary contributions for a new Butler jail though.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/search.php?searchid=2652432

 

[Flying Pig]

Spot the lawyer!

 

[Takhisis]

Yes, as long as it's the women that get lashed.

By other women, and preferably with soft homoerotical grunting.

(…) children can access age-inappropriate things online much more easily than they can in real life.

Online life, to younger generations, is real life.

If they're not good, then they need to be changed across the board. Personally I'm not overly convinced by the idea of 'obscenity', but I do think there are some things that shouldn't be filmed. Snuff films are quite rightly illegal, and I think pornography which depicts rape could well fall into the same category. However, the fact that most people find a certain sort of pornography disgusting doesn't mean that the few people who like it shouldn't be allowed to watch it. There's also some leeway we need, I think - after all, we regularly buy and sell films and video games which depict and even glorify violent crime, so you could say that pornography depicting rape is more like Grand Theft Auto or a Guy Richie film than a film showing an actual murder.

What about murder porn? It's regularly available on TV, almost every night, at times when children might watch that crap.

Dear Lord, I obviously have, but I don't remember mentioning that paddle I made in 5th (6th? pretty sure 5th...) grade for the teacher. You, sir, have a wonderful memory.