SheepNES: The Dragon is Awake: MAIN THREAD

ooc: What are you guys trading? Dont forget any trading pacts need to be in the orders!

Silver has just claimed the Mughals via PM due to him being banned (him and Abaddon, the usual suspects I am guessing)

Any questions direct the to the sign up thread, if you post them here I am going to just ignore them from now on.
 
From: Emperor Huyana Capac, ruler of the Incan Empire
To: Emperor Jiajing of the mighty Ming Empire

We are interested in perhaps trading with other countries across the great Pacific Ocean. However, we wish to have your approval of such trading expeditions, us being your tribute state and all. We also ask for approval to spread eastward. If we benefit from this expansion, we assure you that a hefty amount of the profits will go to your great empire.
 
To Portugal
From the Kingdom of Spain

Our brethren, of course we shall trade with you. May all the world's riches rightfully be collected by Christian hands.

To France
From the Kingdom of Spain

EDIT:
Let the two mightiest kingdoms of the west unite together in a military alliance. Our goals would be better accomplished if we work together. Our eldest, Prince Carlos VI, wishes to be wed with a fine French princess. What say you?
 
To: Poland, England, Scotland, Russia, and Norway
From: Sweden

We would like to make trade agreements with you, and perhaps further diplomatic relations.

To: Sweden
From: England


We are willing to trade English wool for Swedish wood. Please let me know if this is acceptable or if you have other goods in mind.
 
From The Ottoman Empire
To Poland-Lithuania and Great Knyaz of All Russians, Ivan

The Ottoman Empire believes that the settlement below is very fair and most generous. However, with respect to Russia, we kindly ask that they do not enter into any alliances that might put the Russian people at odds with the Turks. Such an alliance would only make any negotiations nearly impossible. We will say the same to Poland-Lithuania.

Spoiler :

 
Why does Persia not get a say in this matter? We too were attacked by these bloothristy cavalrymen from the north.
 
Announcement from the Mod

Okay so far we have 31 players with full confirmed claims and a further 2 with outstanding reservations. This would make 33 players if they both confirm.

I am going to place an upper limit of 40 players, just to ensure that I dont have to read close to 100 pms per update.... On that note I am also going to place an upper limit of 2pms for orders per turn. If you wish to make a change, please resend all orders with the words '2nd copy, delete first' on them... and so on. This is so I am not cycling through multiple pms for one player, when another 20 only have one and have to wait for the greedy player.

For China I will allow 3pms, just because of its sheer size.

So the Top 5 nations yet to be reserved or claimed are:

Vijayanagara
Bengal
Yemen
Luxembourg - HRE
Chosun - Chinese tribue state.
 
To: Poland, England, Scotland, Russia, and Norway
From: Sweden

We would like to make trade agreements with you, and perhaps further diplomatic relations.

From: The Kingdom of Denmark-Norway
To: The Empire of Sweden


That's perfectly acceptable. What would you like to trade?

And we would not be adverse to "further diplomatic relations."
 
To: The Kingdom of Denmark-Norway
From: The Empire of Sweden

Since the deep blue waters are not directly accessible to us, we will trade for your fisheries for textile and metals, plus a general permission for our merchants to your markets and vice-versa.

As to further diplomatic relations, we would like to propose a defensive treaty for mutual guarentee of security from foreign threats
 
From: The Kingdom of Denmark-Norway
To: The Empire of Sweden


We will agree on both counts.

We propose a royal marriage to seal the deal.
 
From: The Empire of Sweden
To: The Kingdom of Denmark-Norway

We most heartedly agree. Let it be so; we shall send our courtiers anon.
 
As a request from Sheep I'll post my orders for the first turn.

SheepNES - Ethiopia - orders turn 1

Spoiler :
Hi,

Here are my orders:

Available ICs: 11

Domestic
Stability: 1
Education: 1
Invest in education: 4 (2 x 2IC = increase of 2 x 5%)

Military
Army upkeep: 1
Expand along the coast: 2

Use 8 regiments in each direction, keep 3 regiments in the heartlands of Ethiopia.
Send out 1 squadron to explore the world, 1 shall patrol Ethiopian waters, 1 shall aid in expanding where necessary.
Colonize/populate new territories: 1

Science
Feasibility study: bayonets on the muskets 1

Trade
A trade pact has been signed with Oman. Trading of general merchandise can begin from now on.
Trade pact proposals have been made to Yemen and Mahra.

Spend this turn = 11 IC

Regards,
Arian
 
Announcement from the Mod

The above orders by Arian are probably a good example of the type of orders that will suit this nes the best. Clear and concise, everything mapped out so I cant make mistakes or misinterpret anything. Thanks Arian!!!

Orders are still by PM, and Arian can change his, this was just an example of what I am looking for in orders.

Cheers!
 
Quitting this NES- not because it's bad, but because other things are better.
 
taillesskangaru and a_propogandist, you have 2 and a bit days remaining to claim your reservations.

Bavaria is now free.

There are 8 more open spots now, so tell anyone who hasnt joined to DO SO!

DEADLINE IS THURSDAY 20TH OCTOBER 2008 @ 11:59pm GMT/UTC +10
 
To the Ottoman Empire and Poland-Lithuania

The Ottoman proposal gives absolutely no Tatar lands to Russia and as it is Russian lands that are under Tatar oppression we must reject that plan.

We feel however that there is no need for Russian and Ottoman people to be at odds, and in fact the goals of our people are similar as long as we can settle the issue of Russian lands that are now ruled by the Tatars.

We offer our friendship, trade, and our support to the Ottoman people if the Ottomans will help Russia recover what is rightfully ours. It is now up to the Ottoman leaders to chose if they would rather help Russia and gain a friend or oppose us and be at odds with us.
 
MOD ANNOUNCEMENT: NEW RULE

Royal Marriages:

Your monarch has a limited number of sons and daughters which will be born at irregular intervals. Of course a campaigining monarch will have less time for his Queen and thus will have less offspring. The game effects is that sons and daughters may have Royal marriages.

Those nations that do not have a royal family cannot enter into a Royal Marriage.

A Royal marriage between two nations has three effects.

1. The two parties of a royal marriage are entered into a immediate military alliance, which will cause some instability if broken, but the fact remains that it can be broken.
2. Trade relations between the two parties are immediatley boosted, so long as the alliance is kept.
3. If a royal line in one of the two nations dies out, the other may try to claim the throne of the other Kingdom (in effect taking over the nation through Royal Union). The player whose nation has been taking over in this manner would become a native pretender to the throne and would have to try and win the throne back or lose his nation.

While some great benefits are opened up so are some problems, and thus you need to be careful as to who you join in Royal marriages, although a royal line wont die out easily, it is more likely to do in the midst of warfare.

Those nations without monarchs will have the trade relations boost trading with other government types of the same as theirs so as to not disadvantage them by denying them the Royal marriage option. The Pope is a special case as it is in effect an Elected Monarchy although their is still no Royal family. Thus it has relations boosted with other Catholic nations to represent the power of the Catholic Church.

Royal marriages survive a 10 turn period before becoming obsolete.

I have added the royal offspring to the stats already.
 
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