Should America open normalized relations with Cuba?

[warpus]

The United States didn't start out with an embargo on any of those nations in the same way or for the same reasons that it does Cuba. I've no problem with China, Laos, or Vietnam. They have got some human rights problems, but none of those nations are in the Western Hemisphere, as Cuba is, so its not a violation of the Monroe Doctrine, as Russia's support for Cuba was.

Right.. So you support the embargo vs Cuba solely based on a document written in 1823.

Shouldn't that mean an embargo vs Russia, instead? I don't getcha.

 

[innonimatu]

Cuba is very weak. It would take just few marines and special forces to take Havana, depose the government and the people would do the rest.

Or do you really believe, that Cuban armed forces are able to offer any serious resistance? Even the US weekend soldiers (aka National Guard) could easily defeat anything Cubans have.

Cuba is very weak. It would take just few marines and special forces to take Havana, depose the government and the people would do the rest.

Or do you really believe, that Cuban armed forces are able to offer any serious resistance? Even the US weekend soldiers (aka National Guard) could easily defeat anything Cubans have.

Cuban military assistance turned the tide on the civil war in Angola and on the war between Ethiopia and Somalia. And the enemies they defeated on these conflicts were not insignificant adversaries (in Angola it was, ultimately, South Africa). The conflicts also had elements of both conventional and guerrilla warfare.
The fall of the USSR is sure to have weakened the Cuban military, but you can assess just how reluctant the US still is of fighting a land war against competent armies of the former communist block from what happened in Kosovo. A turkey shoot is so much better.

Also, you grossly overestimate Cuban people's will to protect the regime.

Sorry, it's you who grossly underestimate cuban nationalism. Same mistake Rumsfeld did regarding Iraq.

(If it was a mistake - the whole mess may very well have been intentional).

The idea of using military force to solve every perceived problem is a very unhealthy one for any country.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

Yet Iraq was supposed to be 50 years behind China even!

Iraq had the fourth largest military in the world, and it was armed by both the United States, the Soviet Union, as well as France and the United Kingdom. Iraq was never projected to be anything less than a powerhouse, and we way over estimated them.

Why such anti-communist sentiments? I'll bet if I came to your house I could find fifty items or more made in China.

1)China's not a communist nation.
2)If you've been reading my posts, my problem is with totalitaianism, not communism.

The US never won a land war in Cuba, and it wasn't for lack of trying.

Teddy Roosevelt and the Rough Riders would beg to differ.

Right.. So you support the embargo vs Cuba solely based on a document written in 1823.

Shouldn't that mean an embargo vs Russia, instead? I don't getcha.

Sorry, I think I missed this part: what does the Monroe Doctrine have to do with Russia?

 

[REDY]

Technically, there were not any communist nations. They were dictatorships inspired by communism. But its normal call them communist and China is still much worse dictatorship than Cuba. In Cuba is not killing, in China is.