Heretic_Cata
We're gonna live forever
Isn't school already mandatory ?
Should school be mandatory?
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warpus
Sommerswerd asked me to change this
Of course it should be mendatory - for the sake of a well-educated state.
You're kidding right? You are saying some people are born with an innate desire NOT TO LEARN and that there is nothing that can ever be done to change this, no matter how our knowledge on the brain or psychology advances? No matter how interesting we make school or how we fashion the environment to encourage interest there is nothing that can be done? You claim to know this to such a degree that we should just let people who don't want to go to school after middle school not go, rather than work to improve our understanding of the mind and improve our educational system?
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bob bobato
L'imparfait
Whats your usefull contribution?
Whether it be at government or parent behest is a multifaceted question, but no way no how should it be left up to the child.
nonconformist
Miserable
Studying while taking out a government loan I will pay back plus interest then getting a job where I will pay income tax.
Merkinball
Deity
I would really be keen on seeing an in depth argument as to why kids should not be forced to go to school. In all seriousness. Throw it all out there.
If a kid decided not to go to school, then he doesn't have the right to any social programs whatsoever.
If a kid decided not to go to school, then he doesn't have the right to any social programs whatsoever.
Masquerouge
Deity
Kids are not responsible for their actions. This means that, yes, when they screw up it's the parents who pay, but on the other hand they do not decide their own fates, the parents do.
Your proposed punishment assumes that kids are fully responsible for their decisions, and again, they're not.
Im saying a certain point the effort spent trying to reform students that have no desire to learn in high school is wasted.
Trajan12
Deity
I disagree. There are students that go to high school with no desire to learn and actually are motivated to learn. I vehemently disagree that any effort to give a person a chance at life is wasted effort at all if it has even the narrowest chance.
Mirc
Not mIRC!!!
School, as we have it today, where I live, is a very very very very very bad system. I attended school since I was 6 and I know a lot more from my father than I learned from school. Kids should be given a lot more attention that what they are given in school. Sorry for not wanting to send my (hypothetical) child to be taught by a teacher that hates the subject they teach, in a class of 40 people, to be treated like ****, in a dirty building, with a bathroom that stinks from 10 meters and in an education system where nobody gives a crap about intelligence and where sexy girls get higher grades because they "have a good time" with the teacher.
I am saying all this from my personal experience. I lived all this stuff. Homeschooling is incomparably better, at least incomparably with the system we have here. School is arguably the most corrupt environment we have here, except of course for politics.
And of course a kid should not be allowed to decide this, but which adult(s) should have the power to decide is very debatable...
Merkinball
Deity
Mirc...
I don't really think this is a discussion about home vs. public schooling...
I don't like public schools either. My children will invariably go to private schools.
I'm not sold on the idea of homeschooling being better. Most homeschool kids I knew didn't make it real life. Homeschooling deprives kids of MUCH needed social interaction. I think homeschooling is a better environment to LEARN content, but there's a lot more to life than facts my friend.
I think you sold it best for me. You took with you experience from public school, and still learned from your family. Just like me. Good job. High five.
I don't really think this is a discussion about home vs. public schooling...
I don't like public schools either. My children will invariably go to private schools.
I'm not sold on the idea of homeschooling being better. Most homeschool kids I knew didn't make it real life. Homeschooling deprives kids of MUCH needed social interaction. I think homeschooling is a better environment to LEARN content, but there's a lot more to life than facts my friend.
I think you sold it best for me. You took with you experience from public school, and still learned from your family. Just like me. Good job. High five.
Masquerouge
Deity
It looks to me that the school system where you live is broken, not the school system as we know it...
Gogf
Indescribable
The government—it's important to have an educated society.
Mirc
Not mIRC!!!
I understand what you mean now.
Maybe I answered a bit too aggressively... but I have been told so many times how I have to conform to this relic that is our terrible public education system that the issue got a bit touchy for me.
And yes I agree neither of the two extremes (homeschooling and attending a public school) is best.
Mirc
Not mIRC!!!
That's the system as I know it... and I assure you its in many places in the world.
The worst part is that homeschooling is not allowed here at all.
If you don't go to school (and I don't think I know more than 1 private school in my city, which is not some tiny town
- in fact I hadn't even heard of private schools until 2 years ago or so) you are an illegal... This is exactly "forcing people to go to (A PUBLIC) school". So the reason why it shouldn't be mandatory is that in some places mandatory school equals being forced to attend a horrible public school that does a lot more harm than good. I am in a way a victim of this action, of forcing people to go to school.In places where homeschooling is allowed, but school is mandatory, are there any checks performed, or are there any required standards?
I think that school should be mandatory, but I think that anything calling itself a school (including the option of homeschooling) should also meet certain requirements. I think it's rather inconsistent to say that a child must receive education - but to then say it's perfectly fine that they can go to a religious school where they learn about the Creationist's version of science, or that a parent could just claim they were homeschooling no matter what they teach, or if they teach at all...
I think that school should be mandatory, but I think that anything calling itself a school (including the option of homeschooling) should also meet certain requirements. I think it's rather inconsistent to say that a child must receive education - but to then say it's perfectly fine that they can go to a religious school where they learn about the Creationist's version of science, or that a parent could just claim they were homeschooling no matter what they teach, or if they teach at all...
Masquerouge
Deity
Luckily for kids, public school is in some places quite decent
Understood...
but know that there are decent public school systems 
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