Should the UN supervise the 2004 Presidential Election?

[NateDawgNY]

Actually Sims, what I was trying to point out was that our current form of government is a democracy as defined above, while what we should be trying to do is revert back to a Republic as was originally intended.
Back to the topic: I stated that it would be un-Constitutional to have the UN monitor our election, because in no way does the Constitution advocate foreign involvement in American affairs.

 

[Duddha]

Back to the topic: I stated that it would be un-Constitutional to have the UN monitor our election, because in no way does the Constitution advocate foreign involvement in American affairs.

Again, the UN would not be running the election but observing and reporting. So, the UN would not be involved in the process of American affairs, but objectively observing and reporting for our benefit. If you believe that this role would be unconstitutional, than any foriegn observer writing on America, like Tocqueville, is unconstitutional.

 

[Zarn]

I wouldn't want the UN observing the US elctions. There are plenty of other nations to observe and actually need it. The U.S. is one of the last nations on Earth to need such pointless observation. Note that most Americans on both sides of the fence (on CFC) are against the measure and more than half foreigners (on CFC).

Why? It's because it isn't needed, it's a waste of money, and it's an insult to the U.S. political process. There is also the thing about the U.N. being against Bush and all. I really don't see them as neutral observers.

 

[storealex]

Pointless, yes.
Entertaining, yes.

And we already do so many pointless things, as long as they're entertaining, so why not this one?

 

[NateDawgNY]

Originally posted by Duddah
So, the UN would not be involved in the process of American affairs, but objectively observing and reporting for our benefit.

Okay. I will concede that in the light you put it, such a role would not be un-Constitutional. However, since the actual title of the thread involves active supervision, that role would be more than just observation and therefore un-Constitutional.

 

[amadeus]

If you don't think the UN would try to rig the elections, look at what they did with the Money, er..Oil for Koj..uh...Food program.

 

[Duddha]

If you don't think the UN would try to rig the elections, look at what they did with the Money, er..Oil for Koj..uh...Food program.

Please read the thread to find out what kind of UN role we are talking about.

 

[Norlamand]

Gore did not actually tamper with the results or attempt to prevent people from voting, so it is not illegal, although it is wrong. He merely gave them extra incentive to vote. QUOTE]

What about the 90,000 overseas military absentee ballots that Gore's lawyers petitioned to have disqualified? Couldn't have anything to do with the military voting heavily Republican could it? I'm sure the Democrats are blameless of any wrongdoing. It is patently clear that they want every vote counted, some of them three and four times!

P.S. For Pete's sake get a spell check or a tutor.
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[cgannon64]

Gore wanted all disqualified, not just the ones that were stamped too late?

 

[Norlamand]

the controversy was not so much on the late stamped ones, those should be disqualified. The 1/3 of the ballots that didn't have postmarks were the bone of greatest contention. Our mailroom here in Baghdad doesn't have a postmark stamp and I'd suspect that many other remote overseas locations don't either. We drop our letters in boxes and the mail room guys take them away. We don't even have to place stamps on them.

 

[Uncle Sam]

How can you say that? There was a rigged election last time, and Florida was gaught rtying to rig it again. Why not take the extra precations?

Democrats lost the electoral vote, get over it. Whining and screaming conspiracy theories will not change this.

 

[Archer 007]

The mere mention of this should be treason.

 

[JohnRM]

Bush cannot be re-elected without some extremists crying out about a rigged election.

 

[Archer 007]

Oops, I accidently voted Yes and Kerry, Can a mod change that to No and Kerry?

 

[Smellincoffee]

There is no way I want the UN near the presidential elections. It's bad enough they're in New York, let alone Washington.

 

[IglooDame]

Oops, I accidently voted Yes and Kerry, Can a mod change that to No and Kerry?

You know, it's funny, for all the comedic abuse Florida voters took (and take) for managing to screw up voting on supposedly idiot-proof ballots, I'm not sure CFC folks could collectively do much better given that it seems like every third poll here has someone in the poll's thread mentioning that they chose the wrong option.

Archer, I'm not specifically knocking you, you're just an example that rang the bell here.

 

[Stapel]

You know, it's funny, for all the comedic abuse Florida voters took (and take) for managing to screw up voting on supposedly idiot-proof ballots, I'm not sure CFC folks could collectively do much better given that it seems like every third poll here has someone in the poll's thread mentioning that they chose the wrong option.

Archer, I'm not specifically knocking you, you're just an example that rang the bell here.

Scrolling throught the thread, I was about to make the same sort of comment!

Nothing personal Archer, just a fine coincedence!


A cheerful regard from him who has been using pencil&paper to vote for the last time in 1994 !

 

[Archer 007]

Scrolling throught the thread, I was about to make the same sort of comment!

Nothing personal Archer, just a fine coincedence!


A cheerful regard from him who has been using pencil&paper to vote for the last time in 1994 !

Its ok guys. But I demand a recount.

 

[downwithgravity]

They can observe and report all they want. heck, they already do. but as soon as it comes to them actually INFLUENCING our political system, no way.