Should there be open immigration

[cegman]

Should the US and EU let anyone who wants to be in come in?

Oh and option 3 has a lot to do with france allowing past colonies free ride.

 

[Evil Tyrant]

No, it would be suicidal. If we did that, everyone with half a brain will move here. This will rapidly overwhelm our police and social services. It would also damage the third world nations the immigrants are coming from. They already have the problems of all their good doctors and engineers moving the the first world. These are only the practical problems, the cultural differences will cause trouble as well.

 

[Irish Caesar]

If you want to emigrate or immigrate, you should be able to do both (yep, I realize that it's difficult to do only one or the other ). However, there should be some rules. And the rules should be enforced.

 

[storealex]

As I've argued many times, we should not accept immigrants from certain countries. Some groups of immigrants are so likely to end up in crime and unemployment stats, that it simply dosn't makes sense to let them in from a "Does it benifit the host country" point of view.
Not of course it will benifit the immigrants to be let in, but think about how much money a immigrant from Somilia, on average, costs the host society. And then think about how many starving people in Congo we anually could save for the same amount of money?

What we should do is therefore, to close the borders to certain countries, and instead double or tripple our foreign aid. It's a win situation for both the host countries, and the poor countries with starving people in them.

 

[Irish Caesar]

Bah, foreign aid only goes to the corrupt dictators who are starving their people in the first place.

If you can get into the country of your choice by following its entrance rules, welcome, friend and fellow citizen.

 

[storealex]

Bah, foreign aid only goes to the corrupt dictators who are starving their people in the first place.

Tell that to the Tsunami victims who only survived because of foreign aid.

 

[Irish Caesar]

That wasn't part of the expected foreign aid budget, though. Foreign aid to countries that you often like to mention (Congo, Somalia, Sudan, I think) doesn't do the help you might like to think it does.

 

[storealex]

Well you can expect things like that to happen, just not when and where. Anyway, there's plenty of poor surviving on foreign aid in corrupt dictatorships too.

 

[Irish Caesar]

I'd rather let them into my country and give them a chance than just throw money at them, though.

 

[Meleager]

Only if it benifits the host, or in certian situations for refugees

 

[Babbler]

If either they face some grave danger in their home country, or if they are willing to abide by laws of the land and integrate into the country: I would let them in. Anybody else shouldn't let in.

 

[Irish Caesar]

if they are willing to abide by laws of the land and integrate into the country: I would let them in.

Sounds like all I'd ask, too. Really, isn't that all that matters for any citizen?

 

[Ultima Dragoon]

You need some laws, otherwise you could have lunatics coming over the country border.

 

[Billy Rubin]

No, more regulations only people that profit the host

If they face some great danger in their home country (you recognize as unjustified or aberant from your public interest), send them money and guns to change it...

 

[FriendlyFire]

Open borders:

well we are moving towards a global governemt which is inevitable. But current economic, geopolitical and cultral situations isnt right for that,

 

[I am the Future]

Open boarders would be a death sentence to most nations. Without a set of regualtions their wiukd be nothing keeping the economies of different areas under controll. Think of the vast economic differences od southern california and Baha California. So close but so far.

 

[downtown]

Obviously, there has to be some sense of boarder control. There ought to be a test given to show that either the canidate is profienent in the native language, or signs something that shows that they are willing to make progress in that regard. A background check should be given to insure that there have been no problems with the law, and perhaps a brief probationary pierod, where breaking the law in your first two years = deprtation.

other than that, welcome all. I have a rather liberal view of immigration

 

[amadeus]

Only if they are a benefit to our society and integrate.

 

[luiz]

The "candidate" should prove that he has no criminal record. Then there could be a "trial period" where serious offenses result in deportation. After that period, citizenship.

 

[Till]

No, more regulations only people that profit the host

If they face some great danger in their home country (you recognize as unjustified or aberant from your public interest), send them money and guns to change it...

Spot on! Give them the means to help themselves.