ı had trouble finding a catchy first sentence for this one . Sweeping stuff makes it hard with many options and "Macedonia makes a pipeline across Pakistan a pipedream" might not exactly come out as striking . This one will be a simple rehash of stuff previously said , nothing new in it . With typical oxymorons of the Empires require voluntary participation from subjugated peoples kind . Persia is the first empire on record , because the Western Narrative that currently holds sway over the world wants it to be known how uniquely unique and powerful the West is . Because the Greeks originators of the West were gods walking on earth . Just like Persians just loved to talk about how they utterly routed Tomris of the Scythians at the end . Coming together is a force multiplier that makes the sum stronger than a mere combination of the constitutents . Says the guy who might one day write a piece on the Neanderthal Statecraft ...
athens and all the rest of Greece were just a blob on the map when logistics and stuff forced a stop on Persian expansion . Alexander of the Macedonians is just a barbarian warlord that lucked on a palace coup of sorts ; as there would be so many Romans of later eras , tamed by what they conquered . The undefeatable Phalanx had it very difficult when it met a force that did not intend to be defeated . India has long been a superpower even if ruling dynasties have changed a bit over the time . Really , all of these are necessary for what's coming . Now that the early Muslim Conquest was just the same , technically a Barbarian raid and those who will want to burn me at some stake should hold their horses a bit . Now that it's this Miracle of Allah , that the superpower A of the times , Romans were utterly defeated by superpower B of times , Sassanids . Much to the rejoice of the pagan Meccans who were trying to destroy Islam . A promise by the Kuran , that the monotheist Romans would come back -very soon- made no sense to Joe Public when Gabriel brought the Ayet to Muhammed . Ömer , however great a Statesman he proved to be , would have found it much harder to enter Jerusalem , had belief in the Romans superiority had not been so shaken . And equally impossible to destroy the Sassanids , if the little cracks within had not grown into insurmountable cliffs . Persians "replaced" their goverment , while Middle Eastern Roman citizens opted to "replace" their state . Within a lifetime the supposed Jihadist / halfway merit based semi-democratic Islam state became a photocopy of a Persian or Roman dynastical affair . The unstoppable Muslim armies were stopped by the Franks (a newly coming Roman wannabe) , an Anatolian combination (of Armenians and Romans who were not "Brown" but "White" -unlike those Roman citizens who "moved" into the Islamic side of the border) , the Chinese and Indians . Turkics took like 2 centuries of brutal suppression , some cooperation against the Chinese impressed the establishment of slave soldiering that would be later much lamented by the Arabs while the former Persian influence practically formed the largest extent of early Muslim advance in India before some army got butchered .
see , basically why the "Indian Muslims" have it in their DNA to like us Turks . India depended on a caste system ; without Turkish invasions India could not be occupied , there would be no need to create a State that needed a support basis and a great majority of today's Muslims would still be at the very lowest levels of humanity , really hoping be re-incarnated as a turtle or whatever so that next time there would be much less oppression and the like . Indian Muslims is a very heavy canard that explains much of the eventual success of the National War of Liberation . Even more funnily the godless Kemalist Republic was not that much shunned , if ever , once it proved one could be part of the age , increasing Literacy and getting rid of diseases without a single drop of Anglosaxon blood in the veins . Jinnah , oh man , was not exactly a typical example of a Muslim and he still totally managed to establish Pakistan , now that such a "back-door" approach had worked greatly in some filthy bad place due West ...
ah yes , am supposed to establish a link between America and the Mujahaddin of the 1980s and the Taliban .
pathans , the dreaded savages of the Raj India , Pashtuns of today have long been a spoiling factor . Oppressive environment leads to unprincipled leadership , making them open to be at the service of the highest bidder as much as anyone else on the planet . As the British were abandoning their Empire at American pressure to be Greek mentors to America's New Rome , they were equally dividing the former Indian Army . And Pakistanis were expecting mortars and mortar rounds and receiving full train loads of bricks ; they surely got one railroad car of condoms instead of ammunition . They were full of enthuasism , expecting hundreds of advisors in , each year sending hundreds of cadets out , some real amount of hearts had to be broken in 1947 . As Keshmir was being visibly stolen , when both Muslims and Hindus had to accept there had to be some sense to borders and Muslim Hyderabad could not join Pakistan or be free , the British sow their deadly poison . Some "volunteers" of the Peshtun . Despite serious opposition from Pakistanis themselves and that couple of advisors in place , those open to British influence despatched the jihadists . Who were supposed to capture some airfield at Simla , the capital or whatever so that the Indians could not bring in reinforcements . The jihadists had it open , all the way and naturally they stopped to rape Belgian nuns for a full 24 hours , because it made great sense , shades of 1914 as the British colonel or whatever that came up with that knew people who had written propaganda in the Big One . It was then down to the interception of the C-47s that were carrying Indian troops , which would have happened as the Pakistanis looked at the advisors and stuff , but that meant war . Then it was still war , with Pakistanis much hobbled and their unquestioned valour easily matched by unquestioned valour of the Indians .
peshtun are citizens of Pakistan , deserve equality and all , no doubt about that ; Pakistan is an "immigrant" country as much as the Republic was and America jumped in with both feet , encouraging Islamabad stray as much as possible from the template they really wanted to follow in '47 . Evangelist hate of the "other" (even more comtemptable than the Jews thay had to deal with inside the Beltway) -ones with an even "worse" religion . Soured their relationship with India which then led the Third World countries to be against the West and a target of subversion and vice versa on both counts . Nobody wanted to be a Communist , not even Russians -as you might well know . American encouragement of Islamabad to be even more "Muslim" would even lead to oppression of the Bengalis as second class and worse , which then funnily almost would bring America in open combat against India . Ah yes , let's join join our hands and imagine a Rolling Thunder or Linebacker against Indians . Who simply went nuclear in '74 , in an effort that almost started with Gandhi as old hands of Civ I players would agree . And whatever remained of advisors then had a lively time that going nuclear for Pakistan would be an utter waste of time and resources . Yes , the time for America to bring in Zia , killer of Palestinians , faciliator of a more "Muslim" Pakistan in the Gulf model , hence dreamer of nuclear equality , talker of vengeful success against Indians , thus fearer of a full pre-emptive Indian invasion .
when the Russians invaded Afghanistan , much against their own expert advice , Zia merely played the Great Game , giving Russians some disturbance , a leverage against a possibility of Moscow threatening a nuclear war to stop Americans in intervening against an Indian invasion . Nobody expected Afghans defeat the Red Army . And one might actually argue that they didn't , in the sense America was not defeated in Vietnam on a numbers basis . Zia was a big fan of the 1980 coup , so that the Military Goverment would arrest the advisors on some pretext and break their lingering fame within Pakistan . Zia had no fear of the Peshaver , not the city but that the Afghan refugees creating an effect within the whole country . Reputation of heroism , when the net effect of their pinprick successes meant the raping of the women of entire areas and to be thrown out of helicopters ; which reportedly stopped even before the arrival of the Stingers . Fame of defending Islam , covering the reality that it was nothing of the sort , except blood-sucking abuse of feodal rights and obligations as Pakistanis were paying hard currency for bloodshed . Folding amounts of US Dollars kindly provided by the Saudis . A claim that hardcore fanaticism was the way to go , that Literacy and getting rid of diseases are nothing , real Islam or whatever shade of Muhammed's Preaching that globally remained was replaced with stuff on how 72 virgins in Heaven are only obtainable with getting blown up , instead of teaching people how to read or creating a suburban railway to get people to work on time or curing the lymphoma of a 5 year old girl or not pickpocketing or whatever that adds up to a good , responsible life . Living as a 14th century r...etard in the 21st , so that the Saudis can keep closing beaches down the Ritz in Riviera . Not insulting people with real issues , but that's exactly what Muslims are desired to be .
zia was not killed by the KGB after Russian prisoners in the dungeons of Peshaver had enough and rebelled against their mujahiddin captors and Pakistani overseers and it took some real effort to kill many and very few of claimed prisoners could be returned to Russians -who are not exactly world famous for concern about the captured . Zia had enough of the talk behind his back , Zia could see he would no longer be awarded by Washington every time his F-16s downed another Sukhoi , Zia wanted some support , hence Zia wanted to recognize Northern Cyprus as an independent state , Pakistani officers of the now very rare Immigrant mold told him why that wouldn't do . Zia died , because he expected America would not blow up the American ambrassador , having done quite a bit of an 180 . Well , he might have died next week , or the one after that , too .
time for the return of Bhuttos . She had even less concern for the advisors , where they were when Zia hanged her father ? And Afghanistan was a mess . Those who supposedly defeated the Red Army could not budge the hopelessly inefficient and insufficient Afghan Army before Kabul . There's controlling a whole country and there is defending real defensible positions on the basis of "let them rot outside" . Kabul fell only because Ankara , now badly wanting Kerkük , thus American approval , spent years propgandizing that the Pakistani perception of the Turks no longer applied . Rashid Dostum finally had the courage to believe that was indeed the case and stopped supplying power to Kabul and withdrew his contingents . That was how the Mujahaddin warlords now had to means to hang Najibullah .
afghans are not mountain dwelling goat loving savages . They had schools and all the leaders of Mücahidler , as the Turkish word goes , were once university students and the like . Knew each other , together opposed legs of women seen under skirts that got shorter each year . Intent on creating a Muslim state , no doubt many were . It was not to be . Saudis do not want any Muslim state , being the leading "Muslims" . Mujahaddin were soon in a million pieces , forgotten by the world , now that Saudis and the like betted on Hikmetyar who then went back to laying siege to Kabul , the rocket barrages kind . Back in high school , just about Gorby took the Red Army out , yours idiotly went to see Rambo III with a classmate who had bought the novelization of First Blood even before the movie came to Turkey . ı was in the Stallone camp when he had this long running fight against Arnie , had loved the Rockies , actually exercised with the soundtrack of IV in the background (even if the movie is nowhere near the III) older brother had taken me to Rambo II and stuff , more stuff . So , we two remained in theater to see it again . Were like speechless in the first , but as we had learned the story , out of a whim , we starting counting how many people Rambo killed , with discussion on stuff , too . After 30 years ı must admit ı was utterly wrong to claim Omar Shariff played Ahmet Şah Mesut .
this was the leader of the Tajiks , never helped by the US , never impressed by the SAS presence in his territory as their attacks against Soviet targets in the USSR made no contribution to the war in Afghanistan , spoke French and saw some leverage in Paris as the French got their oil from Algeria and did not hold the Saudis in such esteem or whatever and the Saudis/Emirates were bankrolling Hikmetyar . Mesut also happened to be a quite a man , too , understanding that Honour was actually a thing . Shariff plays just a Peshtun warlord of the kind that got invited to White House to meet Reagan and needed armed guards on the US soil so that they would not kill each other . Not insulting the Peshtun , but merely having a canvas of how Benazir Butto saw them hopelessly divided to carry out Pakistani designs . And cleared that with D.C. as well .
yeah , we have made it to the pipeline across Pakistan . Which briefly flickered as an option , creating some financial bonanza for Turkmenistan and creating an equal amount relief for Afghanistan as well . Azeris had their own stuff with far more influence in Ankara, Moscow wanted Stans held in line so it would take ages to do it Westwards . It might instead go Southeast and Karachi might become a terminal to hurt Saudi coffers who would then have less to make us "Muslims" . It might even branch into India , to create one more stuff not to nuke each other by the end . It died real quick , with rebuilding Russian stuff becoming the overriding priority . (Courtesy went out of the window real quick , let me tell you , when Americans came to believe there was nothing left that could oppose them .) The trouble in Central Asia , though , was Benazir Butto thinking if that was the case , then she would make it happen , because . Her supposed people on the ground was taxing Pakistani truck drivers on the newly created routes to Central Asia . Ending this was how she created the Taliban , after a couple of Immigrants brought in to her presence went pale at how Pakistan would now advance deep and defeat whatever evil might lurk in the steppes and America would love Islamabad even more ; so , she didn't talk too much about it afterwards .
taliban is the good old packaged anew , it slays a couple of truly outrageous , unites the Peshtun , drives Pakistani "border" to the Turkics and nobody shows up to build the pipeline , at least fund a part . Pakistanis still regularly show up , regularly complaining about India , regularly trading stories on what the Chinese are doing these days , how the grandkids are doing being the staple of Eastern way of chatting whereever suitable . They merely remarked that Benazir once again has ordered a start on talking on Pakistan's behalf so that there will be Western creditors , they didn't insist . Like for half a decade long . Must remember this is the brief flicker of Freedom within the Saudis , too . Ask any expert and he/she will tell you that the Kingdom has been exporting its lunatics ever since the Kabe raid in 1979 . Utterly falsch , as yours idiotly once studied German and remembers practically nothing . With the sax playin' , wife cheatin' Clinton in place they supposed America had gone soft , there was this little fight over who had the right to control the Babül Mendep (the entrance to the Red Sea) . America has a good movie about it , courtesy of Ridley Scott . Quickly suppressed , the Salafist bunch return to their allotted task and start working fully on the Taliban .
they end up cornering all non-Peshtun peoples of Afghanistan . And Pakistan finds it impossible . What the Red Army could not in 1984 , Pakistan can not in 1999 with far less werewithal . Despite the thousands of "troops" it sends up north , who babble a lot , fire at empty mountains a lot , kill some hapless guy if they can , rape a woman if they can and return home as if they conquered the moon , so everyone should be a Salafist . Every cornered people can still manage , short of real amounts of expenditure on bribes by Riyadh . And responsible management by them Dems has created a surplus of hundreds of billions for US , to be spent by the comin' Republicans . A first move happens to be forcing Pakistan to declare itself Nuclear , so that all the cowardly Immigrants will no longer be able to tell of the days . The immediate result is getting pushed around in Kashmir by the Indians ... Uh , America will come in soon , they don't want Islamabad to get ideas that it can get away with stuff . A 9/11 truther ? Dude , you have no idea ...
to make it real , even the Taliban is stolen . Instead of proxy by proxy , they are elevated to proxy . This hapless Argentinian company after so much effort of getting their secretaries dress modestly whenever Taliban dignitaries are in town , sees they are immediately sidelined as some US company shows up . Luckily Russians are back in town , nobody in the Stans pay attention and uh , Rashid Dostum like holds the Afghan reserves . Who's suddenly bribed out , but who cares ? Peshtun Islam is a tad too much even for Uzbek fundies , in case one wonders . Then the glorious days when Americans get to ride horses to war and you know naturally discover the beardies have NATO artillery tables and ponchos and radios , better than the then US standart issue . A-K-P is still a year away from coming to power , this is meant to convey evil Pakistanis are assisted by more evil . The whole disappearing act of Bin Ladin is to the same end , this more evil advises evil Pakistanis to hide the guy as Americans are beating the air at Tora Bora . Which is the American intent all along , because when on the "seat" they excrement solid gold , being unique and nothing like us mortals . The whole American strategy for Afghanistan is to defeat Afghanistan and stay in occupation , because no empire has managed to do that before . And Tora Bora was the place of some Russian defeat , but Americans easily won . But like 17 years on , still not a word on how American proxies ran to 4 winds as some two bit Pakistani bunch showed up and roughly handled the Americans in Anaconda ...
the poor guy whom Ankara used to send to Afghanistan to the Dostum's practically never knew what he had done wrong when the Congregation faked him as a coupist and got him dead in prison with an heart attack . He had been carrying out orders of the State as ordered by the West and the like . Would have laughed out loud at Pakistani version of the events that happened like before he was born . Must have sounded impressive with the beardies as their icon spent weeks in Afghanistan with bombs supposedly raining on him and him taunting the Turks and the infidels that once surrounded him and he had evaded gloriously . You know , to die to provide the spineless jerk also known as Obama a victory , sitting on some amount of trashy movies that can not be named here . And the best part is how the Pakistanis waited for America to ask him over for 5 years . And America wanted none of it and finally played for votes and the like and said they discovered the vermin by a spy who looked like a doctor innoculating children . Naturally , people in Pakistan now know doctors are spies and vaccines are Jewish , so they don't let either them around . Didn't Polio just show up in Pakistan again ?
and not a single word of it is irrelevant to the thread , too . See , when Hikmetyar could not conquer Kabil , he was despatched post haste to Turkey where he could be pictured with the mayor to-be of Istanbul in a show of respect .
It of course made great sense to Islamists that they would get extra votes . And today , if Hikmetyar ever showed up he might , ı don't know , be taken as an equivalent
and when doing a web search , even yours idiotly found this paragraph is entirely wrong or something in that it was 1985 when the picture was taken and Saudis have been re-using it as a basis of their charges against Qatar that the said supports Terrorism ; but am kinda honest and will admit when wrong at some point .
