Small Observations General Thread (things not worth separate threads)

[Krikkit1]

It says "Papal state" in Polish, just for the record

I assume it makes growth food requirement higher when you build a building, so that if you develop urban, you have a harder time with rural. The population count also will give a better idea of how much yields the city gets roughly I guess???

Well it seems no longer population but “city size”
City Size=Buildings + Population
(Population = Specialists + Rural Districts)

 

[Uberfrog]

I found this one really funny. "Vatican of the Ecclesiatic People"

The insistence on the format is quite hard for some of these. I don’t even know what’s better, the Papal People?

 

[Siptah]

According to Steinwallen, eliminating a civilization gives a large chunk of age progress immediately.

 

[sTAPler27]

I'm kind of confused how the Culture Victory really relates to Culture gameplay wise. Like all the victories I can get, you need gold to buy resources, you need military to take cities and you need science to research the associated techs but with culture outside of needing to unlock one civic to get the explorers and the slots for atifacts I feel like it really doesn't tie to your culture production. Even the Exploration one does more because Religion has its own civics tree and Relics provide culture.

 

[chaosprophet]

After a bit of confusion and a lot more counting, it seems that city size is not just population but also counts buildings and wonders. I have no idea why, this seems like a thing that was in no way broken to me and did not need change, but we can only hope Carl or so will eventually enlighten us about the reasoning behind this. Is it meant to give a more general understanding of the city's yield output since buildings provide yields equal to a specialist on the tile on their own?

Probably to keep the association from previous civs of "population = amount of workable tiles + specialists" but taking in account in this game a city work all "improved" tiles. When you add a new urban district or wonder, that means one extra workable title. Alternatively they could have made so you can only build urban districts / wonders on top of rural ones and after you did so wouldn't get a pop back to make into a new rural district, but that may get a bit too unrewarding to do buildings and make calculating trade offs quite more complicated?

Looks like Nookrium didn't showcase Exploration civ unlocks, so here are some:

Norman - America, French Empire

If America was the other Norman civ unlock after all, I wonder what civ gives Prussia a free unlock.

 

[Gori the Grey]

The insistence on the format is quite hard for some of these. I don’t even know what’s better, the Papal People?

And please make their outfits purple, so we can call them the Purple Papal People.

I mean "Christians" would be one kind of answer. One realizes why the game doesn't want to use that as its term.

 

[Potworny]

Norman - America, French Empire

Hah, so my crazy graphic with the four pixel gaps on the Norman screen was right! I feel so proud ;v

Also, I may have not made myself clear on Vatican - the Polish game literally says „People of the Papal State”

 

[Krikkit1]

I'm kind of confused how the Culture Victory really relates to Culture gameplay wise. Like all the victories I can get, you need gold to buy resources, you need military to take cities and you need science to research the associated techs but with culture outside of needing to unlock one civic to get the explorers and the slots for atifacts I feel like it really doesn't tie to your culture production. Even the Exploration one does more because Religion has its own civics tree and Relics provide culture.

You can't buy resources with Gold. You send a Merchant to another civ to get some of their resources... and that civ gets free gold... there is no more "trading".
(Gold buildings do increase the resource slots in cities)

The Artifacts, Wonders, and Relics all Provide culture rather than require it.

 

[JNR13]

The insistence on the format is quite hard for some of these. I don’t even know what’s better, the Papal People?

Does it have to be an adjective that will appear with "people"? I don't think the UI for independent people showed such. It could just say "Vatican, of the Papacy" or "of the Papal States". If "people", then even "Latin" could work.

Personally, I don't mind Ecclesiastic. The church did control many lands directly and many bishops were also territorial lords, far beyond the Papal States themselves. It is the Church who ruled those lands, not "Christians" in general.

 

[Sagax]

If America was the other Norman civ unlock after all, I wonder what civ gives Prussia a free unlock.

At present, it seems Prussia is only unlocked by Rome and Frederick. IMO that’s a subtle hint at a certain entity with a three-letter acronym in the future.

 

[Potworny]

At present, it seems Prussia is only unlocked by Rome and Frederick. IMO that’s a subtle hint at a certain entity with a three-letter acronym in the future

Ah man, I didn't wanna go from PLC to Prussia :///

 

[Ryansinbela]

What does Chanda-Mahasena (one of Ashoka’s mementos) mean

 

[chaosprophet]

At present, it seems Prussia is only unlocked by Rome and Frederick. IMO that’s a subtle hint at a certain entity with a three-letter acronym in the future.

Oh yeah, I forgot. Because before the videos we only saw a few exploration civs unlock and some examples of the three way by the devs, we never thought before that Antiquity civs could unlock Modern ones directly, instead of just indirectly (unlock an Exploration civ that then would unlock the Modern one).

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

I found this one really funny. "Vatican of the Ecclesiatic People"

Is this the English translation? Because one would think you could just name it "Vatican City of the Papal States".

 

[Lonecat Nekophrodite]

Don't recall, but it was from the boesthius stream. Here's the relevant bit:

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Zheng Ce. Empiress of Japan and Kaiser Ogust.

 

[j51]

I’m now hoping that an IP being present doesn’t rule out that civ showing up soon (even as soon as CotW) if the Maurya and a Magadhan IP are both in the game!

 

[Lonecat Nekophrodite]

Oh gosh this gonna be big, doing all the IP's saw since the review videos (that I saw) came out, so if anyone saw any other IP beyond these, please tell us here

Lan Xang - Luang Prabang

Magadha - ?

Yue - Kuaiji

Lan Na - Chiang Mai

1. Is this 'Yue' means 'Cantonese' or 'Viets'? What is a chinese character expression?
2. The first time Lan Xang being City States / Independent Powers, and Lanna. But I don't see Ayutthaya or Sukhothai in the list. I think FXis wanted either of the two to be Age II civ. (I'm for Ayutthaya since it lasted longer and a real continental Southeast Asia giant (one of the Big Three).
3. And Chiang Mai is a city where Doi Suthep is. the cheti itself was very old, I think as old as the city itself built sometimes after Chiang Mai was founded.
4. Kingdom of Magadha (แคว้นมคธ) was a giant before Alexander came in. Also the first in Asia to invent Standing Army system. even has a military settlement, one of the most famous was 'Uruvela Senanigama' (ตำบลอุรุเวฬาเสนานิคม). Its seat could be named Varanasri.

 

[Evolena]

I’m now hoping that an IP being present doesn’t rule out that civ showing up soon (even as soon as CotW) if the Maurya and a Magadhan IP are both in the game!

Especially since they don't have city-state bonus anchored on them now.

 

[Rac]

1. Is this 'Yue' means 'Cantonese' or 'Viets'? What is a chinese character expression?
2. The first time Lan Xang being City States / Independent Powers, and Lanna. But I don't see Ayutthaya or Sukhothai in the list. I think FXis wanted either of the two to be Age II civ. (I'm for Ayutthaya since it lasted longer and a real continental Southeast Asia giant (one of the Big Three).
3. And Chiang Mai is a city where Doi Suthep is. the cheti itself was very old, I think as old as the city itself built sometimes after Chiang Mai was founded.
4. Kingdom of Magadha (แคว้นมคธ) was a giant before Alexander came in. Also the first in Asia to invent Standing Army system. even has a military settlement, one of the most famous was 'Uruvela Senanigama' (ตำบลอุรุเวฬาเสนานิคม). Its seat could be named Varanasri.

I did not print everything I saw in the review videos, but on the Yue it's indeed how's called in game, the UI was (settlement) "Kuaiji of the Yue people", it's in modern Zhejiang province.
Also just to add a thing I forget, apparently Dwarawati is an separated IP from Mon, unless Mon got renamed to Dwarawati. And about Ayuttahaya and Sukhothai, we didn't see then apperaring in any photage, at least I didn't see it yet.

 

[j51]

I did not print everything I saw in the review videos, but on the Yue it's indeed how's called in game, the UI was (settlement) "Kuaiji of the Yue people", it's in modern Zhejiang province.
Also just to add a thing I forget, apparently Dwarawati is an separated IP from Mon, unless Mon got renamed to Dwarawati. And about Ayuttahaya and Sukhothai, we didn't see then apperaring in any photage, at least I didn't see it yet.

Doesn’t mean they won’t though.