Small Observations General Thread (things not worth separate threads)

[Sagax]

Looks like Nookrium didn't showcase Exploration civ unlocks, so here are some:

Inca - Mexico
Hawaii - Meiji Japan
Ming - Qing
Norman - America, French Empire
Songhai - Buganda
Shawnee - America, Mexico
Mongolia - Qing, Russia

Couldn't see for the rest of Exploration civs, because the guy didn't scroll down.

 

[JNR13]

After a bit of confusion and a lot more counting, it seems that city size is not just population but also counts buildings and wonders. I have no idea why, this seems like a thing that was in no way broken to me and did not need change, but we can only hope Carl or so will eventually enlighten us about the reasoning behind this. Is it meant to give a more general understanding of the city's yield output since buildings provide yields equal to a specialist on the tile on their own?

 

[Archanist]

Inca -> Mexico feels the weirdest to me so far ngl

 

[Seek]

After a bit of confusion and a lot more counting, it seems that city size is not just population but also counts buildings and wonders. I have no idea why, this seems like a thing that was in no way broken to me and did not need change, but we can only hope Carl or so will eventually enlighten us about the reasoning behind this. Is it meant to give a more general understanding of the city's yield output since buildings provide yields equal to a specialist on the tile on their own?

Yeah, they discussed it in the Exploration stream @1:31:25, but didn't discuss the reasoning iirc. Still waiting to hear if it makes any actual difference in game.

It might just be a way to get a town up and running quickly.

 

[TheSpaceCowboy]

Militaristic suzerain bonuses:
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Well dang, that's a nice cheap way to bolster your military super quickly. (note Marbozir is playing this on Online speed)

I love that Foederati is a unique unit! I suggested that for a Briton civ!

 

[JNR13]

It might just be a way to get a town up and running quickly.

Oh so it counts towards the 7-size requirement to specialize a town? I guess that makes sort of sense, but also makes growth very interchangeable with producing / buying stuff.

 

[TheGhostEnthusiast]

Good lord @ how badly this undercuts Kong's ability which is based on having Cities over towns. Not going Econ Legacy as Kong is like playing with a handicap.

I mean, you can only have so many Specialists if you have a lot of Cities and very few Towns. It really seems like Specialists will be the focus of what the devs are calling the "tall" playstyle, in which case it would fit him.

 

[AriochIV]

I am going to take this as 100% waterproof confirmation that Italy, Florence, Sassanid, Safavid, and Seljuks are planned civs, please and thank you.

Sassanids and Seljuks are already in as Independent Powers.

 

[Sagax]

Some modern civ unlocks:

French Empire: Improve 3 Wine resources (lol)
Qing: Improve 3 Jade resources; Play as Ming
Russia: Have 3 Settlements on Tundra tiles
Siam: Have 4 Temples; Improve 3 Ivory resources

 

[Sagax]

Least impressive Ming experience:

 

[JNR13]

I wonder if focusing on Gold will become the superior strategy because it can be carried over between ages. There's a point where more science won't give you much of an advantage in the current age anymore, but you can bank a lot of gold and instantly rush a lot of stuff when the next age begins.

 

[Seek]

Russia most OP Modern Civ in the game confirmed.

Good lord @ how badly this undercuts Kong's ability which is based on having Cities over towns. Not going Econ Legacy as Kong is like playing with a handicap.

I’m confused, who is Kong?

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I’m confused, who is Kong?

It's a name for Confucius

 

[Seek]

It's a name for Confucius

TIL, thank you

 

[8housesofelixir]

Ecclesiastic - Vatican

I found this one really funny. "Vatican of the Ecclesiatic People"

 

[Willie5000]

You'd think they'd go for someone like the Seljuks if that was the case. I guess there's always the possibility since they are IP they can change, even ages?
Because based off the timeline you would think the Ottomans are the best candidate for the Modern Age in the Middle East.

They can always add Ottomans later and replace the IP with something else. But still it's ridiculous that they probably aren't planning to do that at first.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

When you have an ally and they get attacked.

 

[AriochIV]

I found this one really funny. "Vatican of the Ecclesiatic People"

I gather that some of the localization translations are not of the highest quality.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Quarbit managed to unlock 10 of the 11 Exploration civs.

 

[Potworny]

This one is wild - do you recall which video it's from?

It says "Papal state" in Polish, just for the record

After a bit of confusion and a lot more counting, it seems that city size is not just population but also counts buildings and wonders. I have no idea why, this seems like a thing that was in no way broken to me and did not need change, but we can only hope Carl or so will eventually enlighten us about the reasoning behind this. Is it meant to give a more general understanding of the city's yield output since buildings provide yields equal to a specialist on the tile on their own?

I assume it makes growth food requirement higher when you build a building, so that if you develop urban, you have a harder time with rural. The population count also will give a better idea of how much yields the city gets roughly I guess???