Small Observations General Thread (things not worth separate threads)

[ThERat]

Just to clarify, is it correct that units now have a single strength attribute, meaning no more difference in attack and defense (I know the rock scissor paper concept is gone). If so, that's another major bummer

 

[Giskler]

You can create air strips outside of your territory.

 

[ggmoyang]

Katyusha in action, and its stats.

The official guide's unit description reads 'decreased Combat Strength' and I thought it would have lower ranged strength.
But no, its ranged strength is 45 - same with the assault gun. Its melee strength is 5 lower than assault gun.
Also 3 moves instead of 2.

 

[ggmoyang]

Just to clarify, is it correct that units now have a single strength attribute, meaning no more difference in attack and defense (I know the rock scissor paper concept is gone). If so, that's another major bummer

What? We didn't had separate attack and defense since Civ 4. Instead, there was traits that gave bonus on attack or defense.
Civ 7 indeed simplifies in this manner too though. Unit types are reduced, and promotion tree that could specialize a unit is gone. But there are still several factors that grant bonus on defense, like fortification or terrain.

 

[ThERat]

What? We didn't had separate attack and defense since Civ 4. Instead, there was traits that gave bonus on attack or defense.
Civ 7 indeed simplifies in this manner too though. Unit types are reduced, and promotion tree that could specialize a unit is gone. But there are still several factors that grant bonus on defense, like fortification or terrain.

Thanks for the clarification. Defense boni have always existed (at least in civ3/4, forgot about 5/6). However, there was a place for cavalry or infantry depending whether you wanted defenders or attackers.
I shall check more playthroughs then

 

[JcDusss]

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The Fractal map is slightly better that Boxinents+, still a little boxy though

I must admit that I'm still concerned about these islands spread out across the map. It just looks artificial and predictable to me.

 

[Arcaian]

I mean, that rocket looks very clearly based on soviet rockets of the Vostok family (as the one that out Gagarin in space) to me. The four tapering boosters arranged around the first stage are a pretty recognizably Soviet design.

There's no flag or national emblem, but the Cultural and Economy victory screens don't, either.

I think that's a level of familiarity with rocket design that most people don't have - I've spent a pretty large chunk of time learning about space, but I couldn't have told you anything about the origin of the rocket. I'm glad that it is Soviet! But I don't think it's even close to how clear it is that the other two are British and French, Big Ben and the Eiffel Tower are a lot more recognisable than the Vostok rockets

 

[Evie]

The only way the picture could be more clear is by having flags or actual symbols (red star) in it. Which none of the victory screens have.

 

[Jeppetto]

I think that's a level of familiarity with rocket design that most people don't have - I've spent a pretty large chunk of time learning about space, but I couldn't have told you anything about the origin of the rocket. I'm glad that it is Soviet! But I don't think it's even close to how clear it is that the other two are British and French, Big Ben and the Eiffel Tower are a lot more recognisable than the Vostok rockets

Well I dont think they could put St Basils in the background Thats the problem, the victory is about rocket launch and so the image is and I think its hard to make space launch station look very culture-specific. Though one could argue that the French image is very loose too.

 

[Krikkit1]

Well I dont think they could put St Basils in the background Thats the problem, the victory is about rocket launch and so the image is and I think its hard to make space launch station look very culture-specific. Though one could argue that the French image is very loose too.

Unless you’re implying it looks like Las Vegas the other two are clearly in RL cities.

 

[Jeppetto]

Unless you’re implying it looks like Las Vegas the other two are clearly in RL cities.

So you'd like, as Victory Screen for first manned spaceflight, to be just an image of Moscow?

 

[Arcaian]

To be honest, it might not be accurate, but I wouldn't be upset if they threw a red star on the rocket

 

[ggmoyang]

Remember those meta progression level is called as 'legend level'?

Look at this:

This is one of the leader attributes. You can't use this attribute until you unlock this node in leader path:

The example requires legend level 3 of Charlemagne's path.

Source:

 

[Jeppetto]

There are few of those Legend Unlocks in Attribute Trees

 

[Mr Jon of Cheam]

Remember those meta progression level is called as 'legend level'?

Look at this:
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This is one of the leader attributes. You can't use this attribute until you unlock this node in leader path:

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The example requires legend level 3 of Charlemagne's path.

Source:

Ooft, I don't like that. Cosmetics and mementos, ok sure why not, but that's too far for me.

 

[Jeppetto]

If the start-up benefits from playing Starships to unlock things in BE (which are availiable in the code even without Starships) is any indication, I think it will be easy to mod the Legend Unlocks out.

 

[ggmoyang]

If the start-up benefits from playing Starships to unlock things in BE (which are availiable in the code even without Starships) is any indication, I think it will be easy to mod the Legend Unlocks out.

I hope for a mod that unlocks every legend unlocks and mementos.

 

[Krikkit1]

Ooft, I don't like that. Cosmetics and mementos, ok sure why not, but that's too far for me.

You still have to spend the attribute point to get it in a particular game though

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

You still have to spend the attribute point to get it in a particular game though

Right. Even if you unlock it, you're not obliged to use it.

 

[Lorizael]

Thanks for the clarification. Defense boni have always existed (at least in civ3/4, forgot about 5/6). However, there was a place for cavalry or infantry depending whether you wanted defenders or attackers.
I shall check more playthroughs then

No more firepower either.