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The French Landships are Renault FT's.

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edit: Unfortunately the Prussian Biplanes are still the same Sopwith Camels. The Red Baron is very disappointed.

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Gen.Washington said:
I’m super stoked for a distinction between WW1 and 2 again, Civ 6 felt soooo weird going from the war of 1812 to 1942 in a single infantry upgrade. Plus GREAT WAR BOMBERS are back.
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I would tend to disagree, and say that’s too fine of a distinction (although partially just unhappy that the 3rd age is just industrial)
 
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Archanist said:
I'm gonna hazard a guess and say:
Assault Gun - Hummel
AT Gun - 3.7cm Pak 36
Howitzer - 10.5 cm leFH 18??
Tank - Panzer IV Ausf. D (or F1)

hard to tell though
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Hummel is right on the money.

AT gun is Pak40. Chasis has the sloped plating, as opposed to the rounded side plating of the 36. (Edit: I was referencing the 38, but you said 36. I think the 36 is a little too tall for the model pictured.) Though the gun barrel seems shorter, possibly due to lacking the muzzle break.

Howitzer is a bit harder to tell, but my money is the "Big Bertha." I'm not sure what it's called, but the way the wheels are sort of "tracked" is found on only a few artillery pieces.

F1. The F1 has both the short barreled 75mm gun and a single armor plate for the driver and machine gunner port, as opposed to the "offset" armor plating of earlier Panzer 4 models like the E.
 
ggmoyang said:
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The amount of AI bonuses. (and player penalties)
I edited image so you can see all of the table.

He also confirmed that Deity AI don't have bonus warriors or settlers.

Source:
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Bonuses to all the yields except Influence and Food. (Production apparently doesn’t have a general boost but standard for buildings none for wonders and double for units)

The only things on top of that is Combat Strength and Army Experience.
 
AriochIV said:
The French Landships are Renault FT's.

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edit: Unfortunately the Prussian Biplanes are still the same Sopwith Camels. The Red Baron is very disappointed.

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Very underwhelming. Prussian warplane should be of their brand models. Meiji Japan gets Leisen only for somebody else to get generic aircrafts including Meiji to get American dive bombers rather than Mitsubishi Ki-30 'Nagoya' (exported to Siam)?
While Prussian Landship is historically accurate 'Rare items'. in truth German Empire also used looted tanks, and ironically more of them since German Industry at that time did not have the same capacity as Allies Entente. In this war the United States only dedicated a fraction of their industrial might to the war effort, they had AFV projects but all their tanks did not join the war, instead British and French tanks were used. the US of A only did some ships, and 'American Enfields' primarily made by Winchester Repeating Arms, with Remington and Baldwin Locomotive Works provided additional production capacity.
There were ironically more lotted Mark IVs and FT17 bearing Teutonic Cross mark in German Army than domestically made A7Vs.

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^ This is basically Napoleonic era Redcoats retinted. Basically ingame generic European Linear Infantry. US Army Line Infantry SHOULD Also be this. because this is what actually US Army of 1812 wears.

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^ Both Prussia and Mexico use PanzerKampfwagen IV. AFAIK only European supporters of Germany in WW2 purchased ones, and Syria used ones postwar.

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^ Field fortified tanks.

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^ And a nuclear fallout. so War... War Never Changes.
 
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AriochIV said:
Well, 1812 to 1917 is still a step up from 1812 to 1942.

A closer look at the Prussian Artillery and Assault Gun:

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The artillery piece is almost exactly a model of the 42 cm kurze Marinekanone 14 L/12 or M-Gerät, better known as Big Bertha. It was the only artillery piece larger than 15 cm to have a gun shield while still having the loading platform on the trail, so it's pretty distinctive. Relative to the assault gun it is much too small, however: the towed artillery piece was almost three times larger than the self-propelled model shown!

That 'assault gun' is almost a match for the Hummel ("Bumblebee") self-propelled 15 cm howitzer of WWII. I say almost because the Hummel had a pronounced downward angle to the rear of the side armor that the model does not appear to have, and the gun tube is much too small compared to the vehicle. See below:
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These were captured and used by the Soviet Army in 1944, but the only change from the German usage is the red stars outlined in white on the sides - and note the Lend Lease American M4 Sherman in the rear. The model also shows the vehicle painted gray, which is not strictly accurate: the Hummel didn't get to the front lines until the Battle of Kursk in 1943, by which time all German combat vehicles were painted in dunkelgelb (dark yellow) when they came from the factory.

It is
 
Archanist said:
Great info, but I think you accidentally left a thought hanging
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I thought it was a simple, yet powerful affirmational statement.
 
Boris Gudenuf said:
The artillery piece is almost exactly a model of the 42 cm kurze Marinekanone 14 L/12 or M-Gerät, better known as Big Bertha. It was the only artillery piece larger than 15 cm to have a gun shield while still having the loading platform on the trail, so it's pretty distinctive. Relative to the assault gun it is much too small, however: the towed artillery piece was almost three times larger than the self-propelled model shown!

That 'assault gun' is almost a match for the Hummel ("Bumblebee") self-propelled 15 cm howitzer of WWII. I say almost because the Hummel had a pronounced downward angle to the rear of the side armor that the model does not appear to have, and the gun tube is much too small compared to the vehicle. See below:
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These were captured and used by the Soviet Army in 1944, but the only change from the German usage is the red stars outlined in white on the sides - and note the Lend Lease American M4 Sherman in the rear. The model also shows the vehicle painted gray, which is not strictly accurate: the Hummel didn't get to the front lines until the Battle of Kursk in 1943, by which time all German combat vehicles were painted in dunkelgelb (dark yellow) when they came from the factory.

It is
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It's definitely meant to be a Hummel. The rear slope is less pronounced but it's there.

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AriochIV said:
It looks like the Fourth Age threads were either moved or deleted, so I'll post this here:

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What of these you were looking for?
sTAPler27

Thread 'I'm Fairly Certain One of Civ 7's Gathering Storm sized DLC that Shakes up the Game Will be Focused on Adding a Final Age'

The mainline civ games have usually steered clear of going to far into the future (usually saving that for spinoffs) but it does feel odd cutting off the game in such an early point in time (relatively speaking). While the late game has usually not been the most fleshed out portion of any civ playthrough the devs have always tried to represent the more contemporary portion of civilization, whether that be with researching the internet to switching to clean fuels. The abscence of an extended modern era feels like playing Civ 5 without Gods and Kings, like something is missing but its...

Lord Lakely

Thread 'Do you want a fourth "Contemporary" era to be added to the game via DLC/XPac?'

A simple closed question. Discussion can be added to the already existing thread here

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Thread 'If there was a fourth “future” age added later on, I’d like them to go all-out with speculative wackiness'

Civ 6 was okay with this sort of stuff. The tier 4 governments, the new policies, and technology such as GDR. However, if there was a whole age that specifically focused on the future, it could be really interesting.

You could do real crazy stuff. Imagine a federalized NATO, or an East African Federation, or cyberpunk, or solarpunk, or any one of the various ideas people have made for the future over the years.
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Thread 'Civ7 seem to leave space for the 4th age?'

The more info we have about modern civs, the more probable it looks for one of the future expansions to add 4th era. All modern civs announced so far ceased to exist in 1870-1950 period and names like Qing China or Meiji Japan suppose there is more modern (contemporary?) age for those civs. The choice of Buganda as modern civ also implies Firaxis wanted modern age civs which didn't survive by now.

For not yet announced civs, the harder one to fit into this concept is, probably USA as it went the least changed from its independence period. The rest looks quite clear:
British Empire...
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sTAPler27

Thread 'Can we Speculate a Potential 4th Age from Civ 6's Era system?'

So more or less Civ 7 lumps the Ancient and Classical, Medieval and Rennaisance, and Industrial and Modern alongside the early Atomic, this means the rest of the Atomic, along with Information and Future eras require Mechanics, Technologies, Civics etc. This part of the game has always felt like a "win more stage" where most of what you gain don't feel like things you must make meaningful choices on but rather just go through the motions until victory.
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These 19 technologies excluding future tech make up more or less the period that would represent the Contemporary world. The...
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Thread 'If They Were to Add a 4th and Final Age How Would you Like the Civ Transition to be Handled?'

I get that a 4th Age is a Controversial Topic, with even those that agree its inevitable not agreeing on where it would go but in the event that said age is the new capstone of a playthrough how should it interact with the Civ Switching Mechanic.

I do not notice any missing.
 
Siptah said:
You win by building the world fair. Eiffel Tower feels appropriate for that.
The strange thing is that you can build it 100 years before you host the world fair.
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I also don't think the French Expos were dominated by tons of archeologists.
(Well, they indeed pumped many archeologists to Egypt.)

stealth_nsk said:
I'm really surprised to see Kolkhoz producing gold instead of food. And it working with city states is quite strange either.
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The name is likely just for flavor, since it is from an Economic CS.

(On the other hand, strictly speaking, actual USSR Kolkhozs - and most other Eastern Bloc and PRC collective farms - were not meant to provide more food to the populace or increase agricultural production (they famously reduced agricultural production in practice). Both Kolkhoz and the Sovkhoz were designed to extract as much agricultural revenue as possible to fund heavy industries, i.e., the USSR way of speedy industrialization and modernization. In a way, Kolkhozs were more similar to Medieval manors or plantations with cash crops.)
 
Boris Gudenuf said:
The artillery piece is almost exactly a model of the 42 cm kurze Marinekanone 14 L/12 or M-Gerät, better known as Big Bertha. It was the only artillery piece larger than 15 cm to have a gun shield while still having the loading platform on the trail, so it's pretty distinctive. Relative to the assault gun it is much too small, however: the towed artillery piece was almost three times larger than the self-propelled model shown!

That 'assault gun' is almost a match for the Hummel ("Bumblebee") self-propelled 15 cm howitzer of WWII. I say almost because the Hummel had a pronounced downward angle to the rear of the side armor that the model does not appear to have, and the gun tube is much too small compared to the vehicle. See below:
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These were captured and used by the Soviet Army in 1944, but the only change from the German usage is the red stars outlined in white on the sides - and note the Lend Lease American M4 Sherman in the rear. The model also shows the vehicle painted gray, which is not strictly accurate: the Hummel didn't get to the front lines until the Battle of Kursk in 1943, by which time all German combat vehicles were painted in dunkelgelb (dark yellow) when they came from the factory.

It is
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All the time. German AFVs were all have camoes after 1940. and desert khaki is favorite color but i'm not sure if snow white painted hulls did exists.
 
It seems FXis got it right this time.
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Ship of the Line is now Tier 1 watercraft. being HEAVY choice. but it doesn't look imposing enough.. it looks like 4th Rate to me.
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^ Rifle Infantry now comes with HMG support. exactly what I like most.
 
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