Small Observations General Thread (things not worth separate threads)

[Sagax]

Other info from Chinese VODs - leader unlocks:

Amina - Songhai, Buganda
Ashoka - Chola
Augustus - None
Ben Franklin - America
Catherine - Russia
Charlemagne - Norman
Confucius - Ming, Qing
Harriet Tubman - America
Hatshepsut - None
Himiko - Meiji Japan
Ibn Battuta - Abbasid
Isabella - Spain, Mexico
Pachacuti - Inca
Tecumseh - Shawnee, America, Mexico
Trung Trac - Majapahit
Lafayette - French Empire
Machiavelli - None
Napoleon - French Empire
Xerxes - None

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Other info from Chinese VODs - leader unlocks:

Amina - Songhai, Buganda
Ashoka - Chola
Augustus - None
Ben Franklin - America
Catherine - Russia
Charlemagne - Norman
Confucius - Ming, Qing
Harriet Tubman - America
Hatshepsut - None
Himiko - Meiji Japan
Ibn Battuta - Abbasid
Isabella - Spain, Mexico
Pachacuti - Inca
Tecumseh - Shawnee, America, Mexico
Trung Trac - Majapahit
Lafayette - French Empire
Machiavelli - None
Napoleon - French Empire
Xerxes - None

Yep, that lines up with what was shown on the leader selection screen that was leaked by Nookrium

 

[Sagax]

Yep, that lines up with what was shown on the leader selection screen that was leaked by Nookrium

I wasn't following their leaks - did that include civ unlocks?

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I wasn't following their leaks - did that include civ unlocks?

Yes. They also showed one of the Friedrichs

 

[moysturfurmer]

Other info from Chinese VODs - leader unlocks:

Amina - Songhai, Buganda
Ashoka - Chola
Augustus - None
Ben Franklin - America
Catherine - Russia
Charlemagne - Norman
Confucius - Ming, Qing
Harriet Tubman - America
Hatshepsut - None
Himiko - Meiji Japan
Ibn Battuta - Abbasid
Isabella - Spain, Mexico
Pachacuti - Inca
Tecumseh - Shawnee, America, Mexico
Trung Trac - Majapahit
Lafayette - French Empire
Machiavelli - None
Napoleon - French Empire
Xerxes - None

I am going to take this as 100% waterproof confirmation that Italy, Florence, Sassanid, Safavid, and Seljuks are planned civs, please and thank you.

 

[Sagax]

Looks like Nookrium didn't showcase Exploration civ unlocks, so here are some:

Inca - Mexico
Hawaii - Meiji Japan
Ming - Qing
Norman - America, French Empire
Songhai - Buganda
Shawnee - America, Mexico
Mongolia - Qing, Russia

Couldn't see for the rest of Exploration civs, because the guy didn't scroll down.

 

[JNR13]

After a bit of confusion and a lot more counting, it seems that city size is not just population but also counts buildings and wonders. I have no idea why, this seems like a thing that was in no way broken to me and did not need change, but we can only hope Carl or so will eventually enlighten us about the reasoning behind this. Is it meant to give a more general understanding of the city's yield output since buildings provide yields equal to a specialist on the tile on their own?

 

[Archanist]

Inca -> Mexico feels the weirdest to me so far ngl

 

[Seek]

After a bit of confusion and a lot more counting, it seems that city size is not just population but also counts buildings and wonders. I have no idea why, this seems like a thing that was in no way broken to me and did not need change, but we can only hope Carl or so will eventually enlighten us about the reasoning behind this. Is it meant to give a more general understanding of the city's yield output since buildings provide yields equal to a specialist on the tile on their own?

Yeah, they discussed it in the Exploration stream @1:31:25, but didn't discuss the reasoning iirc. Still waiting to hear if it makes any actual difference in game.

It might just be a way to get a town up and running quickly.

 

[TheSpaceCowboy]

Militaristic suzerain bonuses:
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Well dang, that's a nice cheap way to bolster your military super quickly. (note Marbozir is playing this on Online speed)

I love that Foederati is a unique unit! I suggested that for a Briton civ!

 

[JNR13]

It might just be a way to get a town up and running quickly.

Oh so it counts towards the 7-size requirement to specialize a town? I guess that makes sort of sense, but also makes growth very interchangeable with producing / buying stuff.

 

[TheGhostEnthusiast]

Good lord @ how badly this undercuts Kong's ability which is based on having Cities over towns. Not going Econ Legacy as Kong is like playing with a handicap.

I mean, you can only have so many Specialists if you have a lot of Cities and very few Towns. It really seems like Specialists will be the focus of what the devs are calling the "tall" playstyle, in which case it would fit him.

 

[AriochIV]

I am going to take this as 100% waterproof confirmation that Italy, Florence, Sassanid, Safavid, and Seljuks are planned civs, please and thank you.

Sassanids and Seljuks are already in as Independent Powers.

 

[Sagax]

Some modern civ unlocks:

French Empire: Improve 3 Wine resources (lol)
Qing: Improve 3 Jade resources; Play as Ming
Russia: Have 3 Settlements on Tundra tiles
Siam: Have 4 Temples; Improve 3 Ivory resources

 

[Sagax]

Least impressive Ming experience:

 

[JNR13]

I wonder if focusing on Gold will become the superior strategy because it can be carried over between ages. There's a point where more science won't give you much of an advantage in the current age anymore, but you can bank a lot of gold and instantly rush a lot of stuff when the next age begins.

 

[Seek]

Russia most OP Modern Civ in the game confirmed.

Good lord @ how badly this undercuts Kong's ability which is based on having Cities over towns. Not going Econ Legacy as Kong is like playing with a handicap.

I’m confused, who is Kong?

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I’m confused, who is Kong?

It's a name for Confucius

 

[Seek]

It's a name for Confucius

TIL, thank you

 

[8housesofelixir]

Ecclesiastic - Vatican

I found this one really funny. "Vatican of the Ecclesiatic People"