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smokers and former smokers (serious smokers) of CFC.

The good ol' cronic-C through a bong, cigarettes if I am really drunk, and cigars when I can afford them. I hate cheap weed, cheap cigarettes, and cheap cigars.
 
Tabaco is for tools, smoke the medicinal stuff. The word "tool" may be used as an insult, describing someone who is being used by an establishment willingly (as a sycophant), or unwillingly (as one who blindly conforms). Alternatively, the insult "tool" can imply that a person is unable (or unwilling) to form an independent opinion on a given topic.

The term most commonly describes someone who is being manipulated by societal institutions. In this context, the term is thought to be a shortening of the phrase "tool of the system". The insult is used in Western counter-culture to describe strong proponents of those institutions, who seem to truly believe in what is thought of as a mass deception.
 
A pack (25) will last me 2 weeks. So I guess I'm not a serious smoker.

I used to be the same. Quitting did put me on the brink of insanity for a couple of weeks though. It's easy to persuade yourself that since you're only a light smoker you don't really have to quit. Those couple of weeks where what I was going through went way beyond the physical cravings I was used to really scared me. My head was tearing itself apart trying to rationalise starting again. Having my behaviour controlled by part of my own mind twisted by adiction seemed worse to me than the distant threat of a painful death.
 
Tabaco is for tools, smoke the medicinal stuff. The word "tool" may be used as an insult, describing someone who is being used by an establishment willingly (as a sycophant), or unwillingly (as one who blindly conforms). Alternatively, the insult "tool" can imply that a person is unable (or unwilling) to form an independent opinion on a given topic.

The term most commonly describes someone who is being manipulated by societal institutions. In this context, the term is thought to be a shortening of the phrase "tool of the system". The insult is used in Western counter-culture to describe strong proponents of those institutions, who seem to truly believe in what is thought of as a mass deception.

Why can't you spell tobacco right?
 
i smoke a pack in two days or less and i roll ciggarettes too with this tobacco:
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What's that, like 20grams of tobacco/day? I thought I was a heavy smoker ( a pack of Tigra tobacco every 5 to 6 days ).
 
O yeah, Philippe, I was meaning to ask you. Did they lower the amount of tobacco in a pack down south to 47.5 as well?
 
What's that, like 20grams of tobacco/day? I thought I was a heavy smoker ( a pack of Tigra tobacco every 5 to 6 days ).
:lol:, i smoke normal filter cigarettes too, i last about a week with a pack of rolled tobacco though. :)
O yeah, Philippe, I was meaning to ask you. Did they lower the amount of tobacco in a pack down south to 47.5 as well?

good question, I'll get back on that, after next sunday, (remind me :p), I just had to buy pal mall 35g becuase the paper store was out of van nelle :(

but I don't think so, we aren't as cheapskates as the Dutch are. :p ;)
 
And this stuff doesn't even get you high?

Multiple pouches of Swedish snus certainly gives me a funny feeling, if not exactly 'high'. If I used tobacco regularly I wouldn't probably notice the feeling anymore, though.
 
The first time I tried it I started shaking violently, I became whiter than I've ever been (I don't think it was just a sensation, I was incredibly cold and corpsishly white), yet my heart was beating muuuuuch faster than normal and my lips became violet while the rest of me was white (I pretended I needed to go to the toilet, I went there and I got scared of what I saw)... And I hated the candle in that @#$% room. Don't know why, but second time it was almost the same thing (I just took less because I was afraid of the past experience). Are some people somehow "predisposed" to having a rather bad reaction at weed? Or was I just... doing it wrong somehow?

Was it mixed with tobacco? This sounds more like a typical reaction to one's first attempt at smoking a cigarrette, not weed. Alternatively - were you drinking? Weed and alcohol don't really mix well for some people, sometimes marijuana seems to act as a catalyst for the toxic effects of alcohol. Either way, you had some sort of toxic reaction, and weed isn't toxic except in extremely high doses.

Some people do get increased photosensitivity, though.
 
Was it mixed with tobacco? This sounds more like a typical reaction to one's first attempt at smoking a cigarrette, not weed. Alternatively - were you drinking? Weed and alcohol don't really mix well for some people, sometimes marijuana seems to act as a catalyst for the toxic effects of alcohol. Either way, you had some sort of toxic reaction, and weed isn't toxic except in extremely high doses.

Some people do get increased photosensitivity, though.

Smoking weed and drinking alcohol can give some people the "spins" and cause them to puke.

If you're going to smoke and drink, it's best to take it easy on the drinking. I find that with this combo you can essentially smoke as much as you want, but you can't drink too much, unless you want to feel like crap.

Mirc, I don't know if that's what you were doing, but I'd say that the next time you try weed (if you choose to), smoke the weed by itself. Chill out with some good friends, roll one up and see if you like it. Remember to inhale!;)
 
Was it mixed with tobacco? This sounds more like a typical reaction to one's first attempt at smoking a cigarrette, not weed. Alternatively - were you drinking? Weed and alcohol don't really mix well for some people, sometimes marijuana seems to act as a catalyst for the toxic effects of alcohol. Either way, you had some sort of toxic reaction, and weed isn't toxic except in extremely high doses.

Some people do get increased photosensitivity, though.

I had already been smoking for a few months when that happened. Can't be that. The only bad reaction I've had with cigarettes was being slightly feverish, and I got scared after that and never again tried to smoke 2 and a half in a row. :p That doesn't mean that I find them harmless (if you know my posting history on CFC, I've had some pretty extreme ideas against smoking and I still hold some of them).

And yeah, I had been drinking before that, although very little (already ran out of beer long before I tried it), and I don't think the drinking was particularly strong (I think it was 1 beer and a half, IIRC). Might be the mixing, I've thought of that. But still, I was completely freaked out and scared to death.

Increased photosensitivity? I'm usually quite sensitive to light, having extremely light eyes (light blue-gray color)... and I know your pupils will get dilated after weed. But there was just one candle burning in that room.... Can you get THAT photosensitive? Or was it just the wild movement of the flame thanks to the currents of air, that made me hate it so much?

I still kinda think it was something about my heart. Because it all seems to fit in "heart problems" -> incredibly fast heart rate, faster than I've ever had it, loss of blood in extremities, incredibly, "dead-ish" white skin and extreme cold, violent shaking from said cold, dark red lips and eyes.....
 
All that sounds like my symptoms (plus asthma), which finally convinced me to stop smoking. I would go into mild systemic shock and have problems breathing. Believe it or not, you can be allergic to marijuana or your system/brain might not be able to handle it for whatever reason.

That was after years of no problems, all of a sudden I couldn't smoke anymore. I blame the exceptionally poor quality of IC's weed. And, yeah, it took about two years to convince myself the problems weren't temporary.
 
@DNK wow that's interesting...although being allergic to marijuana isn't all that farfetched.

Where do you live? IC? Where's that? And why do they have such crap weed? :confused:
 
Iowa City (no longer). One would think with all the farmers they could have come up with something better, but I think it's the proximity to an urban area that determines it. Too spoiled on high-quality suburbs/Chicago stuff. Had numerous dealers for friends, which guaranteed fairly top-notch experiences. Couldn't take the schwag, I guess...
 
Iowa City (no longer). One would think with all the farmers they could have come up with something better, but I think it's the proximity to an urban area that determines it. Too spoiled on high-quality suburbs/Chicago stuff. Had numerous dealers for friends, which guaranteed fairly top-notch experiences. Couldn't take the schwag, I guess...

Ahh that sucks. I hear the midwest as a whole has pretty crappy weed (though there are exceptions), it's on the (West/East) Coasts that it gets bomb, or so I hear. I can certainly vouch for the West!:cool:

I can't blame you for not smoking schwag...I'd rather not even bother inhaling poop flavored smoke.
 
Smoked for about 20 years. Never was a biiiig smoker: about 10cigs/days and almost never before 1PM (ie after lunch basically). I however could smoke 2 packs when partying. And I never stopped more than one day. That lasted basically from 1987 to june 2006 when I read a topic writtten by Leha on this very forum. He basically had the same smoker profile as me and almost the same age. And he said in the topic that he stopped smoking after reading a book. At first I was like "what kind of book makes some one quit smoking that easily !!!!" I thought it was some kind of a sect or a guru or some psychological bs. I nevertheless bought the book on the spot thinking "what can I lose? it costs the price of less than 2 packs". Bought, read it slowly (took me about 3 weeks) and stopped smoking after that for good without really any pain, it was as easy as that. I myself just can't believe it until now!!!! "Leha my friend, I owe you many years of "life""
The book is that of Allen Carr. I than realized that the guy was a super star in the "stop smoking" world.
 
The book is that of Allen Carr. I than realized that the guy was a super star in the "stop smoking" world.


I read that book too

I quit for an year and then got back on it again :/
 
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