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[GS] Sneak Peek 4/2

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by Eagle Pursuit, Feb 4, 2019.

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  1. Phoenix1595

    Phoenix1595 Lord of the Two Lands

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    One could argue no, if you discount those that were fictional. I still get a kick out of the feminine version of Shaka— wasn’t it Shakalana or something just as awful?
     
  2. Martinus

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    This is not meant to represent personal union as an important feature of historical politics, but rather to offer an interesting variety to the existing gameplay.
     
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  3. cosmicmangobear

    cosmicmangobear Warlord

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    “Eleanor… Roosevelt ALSO leads America in SMC6 Gathering Storm.” :p
     
  4. steveg700

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    Well, we've had cases where the choice seemed to lack any merit in terms of accomplishment or distinction, but this is decidedly not one of them.

    In a world where ambitious folk have expanded through means such as conquest, annexation, and inheritance (to name a few), this shouldn't actually be too "gimmicky" at all I should tend to think.
     
  5. Red_warning

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    Looks just like the sort of windows you'd expect to belong to a queen, probably of two medieval kingdoms, with a slight hint of crusader. I know this because I have seen many windows in my life.
     
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  6. Siptah

    Siptah Eternal Chieftain

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    Yes, I understand it in that way as well, not because personal unions need to be included in some way. I just think it‘s not really necessary. You could also allow leaders to lead any civ and it would also add variety to the existing gameplay. Would I use it/Do I want it? Personally, no.
     
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  7. Red_warning

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    If we get a third expansion and Firaxis decided to go with a complete Scandinavian trio then Margareta I would be an excellent choice. Would also work out for just Sweden and Norway too of course.

    And in the more likely event that they would add Portugal in a third expansion you'd also get a few more monarchs to choose from.
     
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  8. Ziad

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    I hope a third expansion has mostly female leaders. Just for the resulting reaction memes of course.
     
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  9. NukeAJS

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    I don't see any happy clouds :p
     
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    I would actually like to see a hypothetical third expansion let you have an option for randomized or separately selectable leaders and civs. With the leader and civ abilities being separate it would add even more replayability.
     
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    I hope it is Elizabeth I leading England of course.
     
  12. TheMarshmallowBear

    TheMarshmallowBear Benelovent Chieftain of the BearKingdom

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    It's Tamar leading alternative Georgia.

    Also. I WONDER WHO COULD IT BE. HMMM.
     
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  13. Amrunril

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    In the current implementation, it's absolutely gimmicky. If, on the other hand, they had set it up to work more generally (that is, allow any leader to lead any civ as an advanced setup option and simply use Eleanor as an historical example to introduce the system), it would be a huge improvement, adding a amazing degree of civ customizability, virtually unlimited faction options, and an actual purpose for the distinction between civ abilities and leader abilities.
     
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  14. Boris Gudenuf

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    Well, this one is pretty simple and it fits perfectly with the trend in leaders and Civs in Civ VI:

    A tent with religious 'icons' or Christian-like images on it: obviously an itinerant religious Christian leader.
    Tent walls are leaning, so the tent was put up by amateurs or poorly trained attendants: not a regular king then.

    Obviously, it's Peter the Hermit leading the People's Crusade: a non-leader for a non-Civ: perfectly in tune with Civ VI's Gilgamesh, Eleanor, Gorgo, and Teddy the Bear Roosevelt leading 'civs' like Sumer-Akkad-Babylon Mashup, France ("any country with 300 kinds of cheese cannot be completely civilized" - as someone said sometime something like that), Sparta ("the only Greek city-state that left absolutely no cultural or civilized traits in the historical record"), and America ("the only country that ever went straight from Emerging to Decadent without having a Civilized era in between")
     
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    Nicolas-Henri I, King of France, King of Scotland and Duke of Burgun- wait, sorry, that's my EU4 campaign :lol:
     
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    How often do you go in these forums? There was a leak of the list of leaders for GS months before the announcement of the expansion, at it seems that the leak is 100% confirmed by now.

    It's Eleanor. Even I knew that by now and didn't give my guess.
     
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  17. steveg700

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    True, but the distinction is largely undermined simply by underservicing players with regards to alternative leaders. There's some DLC money they are leaving on the table.
     
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    None of these are really the same though - Eleanor was Queen of France and England separately/at different times. She makes sense as someone who can choose England OR France. She never ruled England and France as one empire.

    Almost every else ruled an empire containing multiple of the Civs at the same time. Ie Victoria was never Queen of only Australia - she was Queen of Australia and Britain and India etc as one empire. I don't think she ever set foot Australia.

    I know that's a mild distinction by civ logic - sure Victoria could be like "Ive tired of ruling from England these last 20 alternative universes, let's give it a go as just Australia and not the rest of Britania this time."

    But I think Eleanor was chosen for her uniqueness in that regard, and I have trouble thinking of another leader who ruled two civs in the game separately and not under one empire.
     
  19. Boris Gudenuf

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    - and there are Mods that have already picked up some loose change from that potential DLC money. Just for France and England/Britain already there are Charlemagne, Henri IV, Francois I, Louis XIV, Charles De Gaulle, Napoleon I alternate leaders for France and Elizabeth I alternate for England, plus a separate Anglo-Saxon Civ with Alfred, Offa, and Aethelfleda. Except for animation in the Leaders, they frequently match any Firaxis offering for interesting alternatives to the 'commercial' leaders.
     
  20. Eagle Pursuit

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    Matilda was really really close to being Queen of England after a stint of being Empress of the Holy Roman Empire.
     
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