So socialism

[Birdjaguar]

Given that we know people become less generous in real terms the richer they get, the answer to that is "quite possibly."

When you say "less generous", what do you mean? Less money? Less relative to wealth? Less in absolute terms? Less volunteered time? Less to help the poor? Less to help charities? Is it better to give $100 you cannot afford than to give $1000 you won't miss at all?

 

[Narz]

I was thinking of things like public education

I wouldn't say public education much to write home about. Anyone w means will avoid it generally

 

[Lexicus]

I wouldn't say public education much to write home about. Anyone w means will avoid it generally

Yes, obviously a system where only the rich can afford in-home tutors would be vastly superior.

 

[El_Machinae]

I wouldn't say public education much to write home about. Anyone w means will avoid it generally

Avoid and supplement will be different things. But yeah, people should definitely (aggressively) supplement in addition to what's available. The education system needs iterative improvement, but working on it is best done from a position of having already supplemented.

 

[Farm Boy]

When you say "less generous", what do you mean? Less money? Less relative to wealth? Less in absolute terms? Less volunteered time? Less to help the poor? Less to help charities? Is it better to give $100 you cannot afford than to give $1000 you won't miss at all?

Actually just less generous. More aggressive around others, particularly those with less, less giving of time, less involved.

Think the lady volunteering at the animal shelter after her shift as a social worker vs the vet they pay six figures out of donations and grants that goes home at the end of the day. The rich are valuable persons just to be around, you see. They make things beautiful.

 

[Angst]

I wouldn't say public education much to write home about. Anyone w means will avoid it generally

uhm like yea public education sucks when you choose to let it suck;
it's better with more money;
therefore wealthy people invest more money into education for themselves, making it better
i'm not arguing for a commie paradise here, but maybe it's a good call investing into it and raising wages properly to cover the capabilities of the institutions
as we see in functioning public systems

 

[Narz]

Yes, obviously a system where only the rich can afford in-home tutors would be vastly superior.

Don't you get bored of constant sarcasm? You're not a teenager anymore

Do you not agree public education (quality and subject matter) is awful?

You know and I know and the people who liked your post know that's not what I think so why say it?

 

[Narz]

uhm like yea public education sucks when you choose to let it suck;
it's better with more money

It is better w more money agreed, my elder daughter lived w my mom for a bit and the public school near her was super high quality (since most people near there didn't have kids but did have money so amount the went per capita was high)

Still 90% of it was boring/useless information (as opposed to 98% in most schools)

a good call investing into it and raising wages properly to cover the capabilities of the institutions
as we see in functioning public systems

Agreed. Give teachers more money & creative freedom.

 

[Lexicus]

Do you not agree public education (quality and subject matter) is awful?

Public education is perhaps the greatest invention in human history

You know and I know and the people who liked your post know that's not what I think so why say it?

Backing up slightly, when Tfish points out that public education is an achievement of government and you say public education isn't actually good what am I supposed to think?

 

[Birdjaguar]

Imagine a world without any public education? Oh wait, no need to imagine at all. Any education is better than no education. I taught I spent 7 years teaching elementary and it was just so much fun. And very challenging work. As I see it, the first fixes needed are to pay good teachers more and pay enough to get the best teachers, who currently teach at private schools or don't teach at all. It is a job for government.

 

[Farm Boy]

I'm going to put plumbing higher, but it's pretty nifty.

 

[Lexicus]

I'm going to put plumbing higher, but it's pretty nifty.

Replace foreigner with teacher, same point applies

 

[Farm Boy]

So, ranking clean water and sanitation as a primary foundation of modern society, among other foundational pillars, is rasist. Gotcha.

 

[Lexicus]

So, ranking clean water and sanitation as a primary foundation of modern society, among other foundational pillars, is rasist. Gotcha.

Sorry if that was your takeaway - it was not my intent. Consider that the cartoon is making an argument about class. Consider that there are a handful of people vacuuming up all the money, and by taking money from them we could pay both plumbers and teachers more.

 

[Farm Boy]

Where is the actual consumption? I guess I see a lot of not rasist rich people, and a lot of people that are out of Roseanne. It default wears thin. I'll modify my take on you use of the meme, happily.

 

[amadeus]

based on my experience in public school I’d also say toilets are better

 

[Yeekim]

Do you not agree public education (quality and subject matter) is awful?

US (&British?) public education, possibly.

 

[Narz]

Public education is perhaps the greatest invention in human history

Lol clearly it's not solving basic ignorance

Ive been to public school, its a waste of time. Homeschool kids I've met who can follow their interests are more informed than most 16yos by 10. Granted yeah it takes some privilege to have the time, energy and support to teach your kids full time or be part of a homeschool group but it's worth it if you can.

Public education is babysitting so parents can work. There are good teachers but few and far between

you say public education isn't actually good what am I supposed to think?

That I think it's poor and can be improved? Just read what I said, it's easier than putting some random view on me

 

[Narz]

Fictional movie obviously but that's been my experience meeting kids in a variety of settings.

Public education caters to the dumbest kid and its kinda like a Netflix series where the stretch out the content you could learn in one episode into three seasons to keep you occupied.

And yeah if I had $ I would privately tutor my kids but I'd rather schools be better.

Public school is nonsense and it's odd so many here complain about the low levels of public discourse yet where did people learn to sit passively and absorb drivel without learning how to think critically about it?

 

[sophie]

Lol clearly it's not solving basic ignorance

Ive been to public school, its a waste of time.

You can read, can’t you? You can also be reasonably expected to assume any other given person you’re talking to can read and write?

That’s down to compulsory, free at the point of service, universal public education.

The US rate was also much higher historically than predecessors prior to the advent of universal public education, which is mostly down to a culture of compulsory basic education in New England