@@Cheezy the Wiz
She says she has feelings for me, that she does care about me, but is confused, and I don't know what the hell that means.
--Let me explain it to you. She is not romantically inclined to you at this time, but she knows you're a decent guy and therefore doesn't want to be mean, so she gives you the nice let down. If she had a high interest level in you, you would not have gotten that. Period. You need to run FOR THE HILLS.
Either way, she's preached to me to be more of a 'heart on my sleeve' kinda guy, and she felt that in practice first-hand tonight.
--What girls say they want and what they date are wholly different things. Mothers always want for you to be a nice guy, but guess what, nice guys rarely get the girl.
I'm hanging out with her tomorrow night, too, and going to her Halloween party Tuesday, so we'll see what happens. They say alcohol is the ultimate mental tool, because we are more willing to forego the social lines we draw and abide by when sober, and that our true emotions and feelings about things come out when we don't have control over them, and don't have those lines to stop us. I'm not saying I want to get her drunk and boink her, I would never do that (my morals supercede even the most wasted me), but we all WILL be nice and drunk, and a good sesh leads to many good things.
--I think this is shameful. You are relying on alcohol to get her to do something that she would not do while sober.
--Cheezy, I want for you to have a wonderful girl. But this one is bad news, and you're doing the things I used to do. It can only lead to a broken heart and a slippery slope of anger at women. You are 19 years old and barely even know the world. You don't need to be in a relationship (with an older woman, who is your boss, at your job) and by trying to make it serious (as you hint at in the way you write), well, its just not good.
@@C~G
If you are just hitting girls in bars or hang around as pals, then that is sure thing but example people in workplaces fall in love with each other over time. It doesn't happen necessary in seconds. Of course if the woman doesn't fancy you in the first meeting she doesn't usually change her mind but even though someone might be only your friend it doesn't mean she won't ever fancy you.
--That is correct, but the guy has to adopt a certain attitude to get a girl to move from friends to "more than friends". By being a nice guy, you will not accomplish this.
But it requires some kind of lightning bolt to hurl the man out from "friend zone" in woman's mind.
--No it doesn't. Young women know what they want just as much as young men do. Which means that they don't really know.
Women use logic as much of men use in these things. It is just their kind of logic, just like our logic is little bit mixed up when we see interesting pair of things walking around us. Our hormones and fantasies mix these things up, same happens with women.
--And normally like with this girl here, that when the guy broaches the subject, that normally means he is much more interested in her than she in him, and that normally leads to romantic trouble for the guy later.
I would suggest Cheezy should push it as far as it can go remembering there might be limit to it.
--I think Cheezy already knows the limit, but doesn't want to admit to it.