Soul Scourge [Game Thread - Concluded]

[spaceman98]

I'd prefer 48 personally.
Two nights of missing is pretty good. I'd be more inclined.to go after inactives today, jarrema, verarde dingdong

What happened to Zack being scourge?

Alternatively we could no lynch possibly, I don't like suggesting it but it will give us some information regarding the inactivity of scum

I don't see what this accomplishes. The lynch is the town's only weapon (except for Swordsmen, but I doubt any of those remain)

First three are in no particular order.

1a. Verarde
1b. Count Dingdong
1c. SamSniped
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4. Visorslash
5. Jarrema
6. spaceman98
7. Zack

I suppose its time for me to go public with something:

On the first night when their was no kill, I (spearman) protected SamSniped. There was no kill.

My current theory is that my protection succeeded, and scourges failed to kill Sam.

In that context, trying to get him (confirmed town by surviving nightkill) lynched is very suspicious. This adds to a variety of things that have made me very suspicious of Zack throughout this game.

Unfortunately, Zack isn't the only person I don't like, nor even my primary suspect now that I think about it:

1: Jarrema http://forums.civfanatics.com/search.php?searchid=2707948 little substance in these posts, though there's a lot of them. Approached an inactive with an offer of cooperation. Why?
2: Zack (see above for the Sam note, also a lot of joke posts. Finally, he very rarely survives this long as town. On the other hand, he's known I'm a spearman from the start of the game (that "I'm not pizzaguy" comment was directed at me) and scourges haven't come for me yet)
3: Count Dingdong: You were active when you were alive in NSP. When you died in NSP, you became LESS active. Coincidently you go silent around the time I started to conclude that the scourges probably don't lie amongst the inactives, and post said belief publicly in thread. Your mistake obviously being assuming that town will ever listen to anything I say.
4: Verarde: Posts when privately prodded, then goes silent.
5: Visorslash (same meta note applies as to Zack, but his posts just read more town to me, TBH. Also, he's known I'm a spearman for some time, yet hasn't sent scourges down upon me)
6: SamSniped. See top of post
7: Me: I know I'm town.

 

[spaceman98]

vote:Jarrema Out of everyone with a major presence in thread, you've been the least substantive throughout the whole game.

 

[Jarrema]

unvote; vote: jarrema why did you approach verarde with coop when he was inactive?

I approached him first night

My list:

1. Visorslash
2. Zack
3. Verarde
4. Dingdong
5. SamSniped
6. Spaceman

 

[Jarrema]

vote: Visorslash.

 

[Zack]

On the first night when their was no kill, I (spearman) protected SamSniped. There was no kill.

My current theory is that my protection succeeded, and scourges failed to kill Sam.

In that context, trying to get him (confirmed town by surviving nightkill) lynched is very suspicious. This adds to a variety of things that have made me very suspicious of Zack throughout this game.

There was a kill Night 1. Unless that was an awkwardly phrased way to refer to Night 3, in which case you protecting Sam is hardly proof that he's town. I protected Jarrema N3 and there was no nightkill, does that make you scourge for voting him and "trying to get him (confirmed town by surviving nightkill) lynched"? Sounds like a ridiculous argument, doesn't it? I'd hardly consider either action to make Sam or Jarrema "confirmed town", it's entirely possible for either one to be scourge.

 

[spaceman98]

Night 3 yeah. Valid point WRT other protections, I suppose.

I still regard being protected on a night with no nightkill as being as good a source of night info as we can get in this game so unvote.

Updated list:
1: Count Dingdong: You were active when you were alive in NSP. When you died in NSP, you became LESS active. Coincidently you go silent around the time I started to conclude that the scourges probably don't lie amongst the inactives, and post said belief publicly in thread. Your mistake obviously being assuming that town will ever listen to anything I say.
2: Zack (see above for the Sam note, also a lot of joke posts. Finally, he very rarely survives this long as town. On the other hand, he's known I'm a spearman from the start of the game (that "I'm not pizzaguy" comment was directed at me) and scourges haven't come for me yet. Claims protector)
3: Verarde: Posts when privately prodded, then goes silent.
4: Visorslash (same meta note applies as to Zack, but his posts just read more town to me, TBH. Also, he's known I'm a spearman for some time, yet hasn't sent scourges down upon me)
5: Jarrema Protected on night with no kill. On the other hand, http://forums.civfanatics.com/search...archid=2707948 little substance in these posts, though there's a lot of them.
6: SamSniped. Protected on night with no kill
7: Me: I know I'm town.

 

[Zack]

So the only non-meta reason you suspect me is because I've "made a lot of joke posts"? Seriously?

 

[Jarrema]

5: Jarrema: little substance in these posts, though there's a lot of them.

dont you know my style?
I am NOT a good player (I mean, I am bad at analyses and so on). But I try to, at least, give some information to others to analyse. Both as a town and as a mafia I try to post, even if without substance

 

[spaceman98]

So the only non-meta reason you suspect me is because I've "made a lot of joke posts"? Seriously?

The idea is, if you post, people won't see you as inactive, so won't vote for you, and if you can avoid contributing in those posts, the town won't get any wiser because of it.

That said, you've also contributed a lot, which is why I'm not voting for you (and didn't vote for you yesterday, when said vote could have swung the lynch).

 

[SamSniped]

re: spaceman's protection - I've been protecting both Zack and Visor the last couple nights, and there's been no kill. Doesn't prove or disprove anything, really, since either could be scourge or could be town regardless of me protecting them.

 

[spaceman98]

Tally (in which the town collectively decides that voting is overrated):

Visorslash: 2 (Zack, Jarrema)
Jarrema: 1 (Visorslash)


I don't like this. Visor has consistently contributed and spurred the town into action, much more so than Jarrema. Add to that that I don't trust the two Visor voters and

vote: Jarrema

 

[spaceman98]

btw right now Visor is still set to hang because he was at the tie first

 

[spaceman98]

Zack, if you just claimed to have protected your scourge partner, you truly have balls of steel

 

[Visorslash]

I don't have much to add. Either jarrema or zack are good votes to me. Just relying on sam to vote my way I suppose

 

[spaceman98]

Also today might be http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mislynch-and-Lose MYLO if the scourges can pull off two kills tonight (which they've never managed before, but who knows)

 

[Visorslash]

Would you be willing to vote zack?

 

[spaceman98]

I don't see what that changes. Right now we have two votes on you and two votes on Jarrema, and Jarrema is set to get lynched. TBH I see Jarrema and Zack as equally scummy, Jarrema perhaps even more so because of his relatively lacking in-thread contributions

 

[spaceman98]

*sorry, you are set to get lynched

 

[spaceman98]

Jarrema is set to live sadly

 

[spaceman98]

Zack has been at least relatively vocal in thread, and has prodded people into action. I don't trust him, but I trust Jarrema less, since Jarrema hasn't even done that, while posting enough to avoid the label of "inactive"