Soviet Contributions to Modern world

[Alpha Killer II]

Okay, Im tryin to find out the Soviet contributions to the modern world, so this is all I got so far...

#1 - Propaganda/Advertisement - Lenin Proclaimed the best way to get Communist Ideology around the people was small animated movies, and the capitalist corporations stole this idea for their own ideology so they created advertisement

#2 - The fall of the Nazis - Russia brought down a great deal of the Nazis in World War Two, if they was never even in there (Like if they wasnt against Germany durin WWI so it wouldnt get Hitler all pissed off at Russia), then the Allies wouldnt have killed that much of Nazi Soldiers meanin that, there would be alot more secret Nazis in hiding around the world (old people tryin to pass their ideas to their children??)

#3 - Guns, such as the Ak-47 - They just kick ass, you gotta admit, from the 5MM Skorpion to the Classic AK-47

#4 - Created the "Golden Age" of Russia - Created another time of great achievements for Russia, Peter the Great times was another time of great Achievements for Russia

#5 - Overthrow a few Dictators - Like the ex-dictator of Cuba, now Fidel Castro is controllin Cuba, and we all know how much Fidel Castro is loved, lol, he got a white dove on his shoulder one day (which everyone thinks is a good omen)

Anyone got any others???

 

[BEHIND_THE_MASK]

Are we forgetting Space Exploration we were the first to launch a satelite and a man into space.

 

[Fugitive Sisyphus]

The soviets certainly did not invent advertisements. And if they did it would be less of a contribution than a curse.

Sending a man into orbit was pretty amazing but I think the Soviet Union's biggest contribution was to unite Western Europe by providing a common enemy for them all to band against.

 

[ParkCungHee]

#1 - Propaganda/Advertisement - Lenin Proclaimed the best way to get Communist Ideology around the people was small animated movies, and the capitalist corporations stole this idea for their own ideology so they created advertisement

#2 - The fall of the Nazis - Russia brought down a great deal of the Nazis in World War Two, if they was never even in there (Like if they wasnt against Germany durin WWI so it wouldnt get Hitler all pissed off at Russia), then the Allies wouldnt have killed that much of Nazi Soldiers meanin that, there would be alot more secret Nazis in hiding around the world (old people tryin to pass their ideas to their children??)

#3 - Guns, such as the Ak-47 - They just kick ass, you gotta admit, from the 5MM Skorpion to the Classic AK-47

#4 - Created the "Golden Age" of Russia - Created another time of great achievements for Russia, Peter the Great times was another time of great Achievements for Russia

#5 - Overthrow a few Dictators - Like the ex-dictator of Cuba, now Fidel Castro is controllin Cuba, and we all know how much Fidel Castro is loved, lol, he got a white dove on his shoulder one day (which everyone thinks is a good omen)

Do you ever pay attention in History class?

1-Advertisement has a history dating back hundreds of years before the Russian revolution. Advertisement litterally predates capitalism. In fact, it predates mercantalism and feudelism for that matter. As for animation, it significantly predates the Russian revolution as well, being almost as old as film. In fact Ladislas Starevich was winning international acclaim for animation in Russia during the Tsarist era, starting with Lucanus Servus, which was the first stop motion animation film with a plot. He of course left Russia because of the Soviets. The Soviet Union didn't manage to produce a feature length animated film until 1935.

2-This claim is just silly. The German Soldiers who died fighting the Russians would have been simply untouched by an advancing Allied army, leaving free the possibility of a revived Nazi movement? Fail. Its also important to remember that the Soviets actively offered recruitment incentives to members of the SS and the Gestapo to join the Stazi.

3-Congratulations, they managed to create the worlds most widespread instrument of death, warfare and violence in the third world, fueling instability, ethnic tensions and civil wars the world over.

4-Created one of the least productive eras in Russian cultural history. Russian Arts and culture was exported in bulk in the form of the Russian diaspora escaping the Bolsheviks. Feodor Chaliapin, Sergei Rachmaninoff, Aleksandr Solzhenitzyn, Igor Ivanov, Mikhail Chekhov, Mstislav Rostropovich, the list is simply massive.

5-Installed many more. Overthrew the mostly democratic Batista regime and replaced it with the totalitarian Castro Regime. They set up Mao, Khorloogiin Choibalsan, Castro, Ho Chi Minh, Kim Il-Sung, Supported Idi Amin and Moamarr Qaddafi and too long a list to bother with. I suppose you could make the equally valid claim that the Nazis got rid of a lot of dictators.

 

[BEHIND_THE_MASK]

5-Installed many more. Overthrew the mostly democratic Batista regime and replaced it with the totalitarian Castro Regime. They set up Mao, Khorloogiin Choibalsan, Castro, Ho Chi Minh, Kim Il-Sung, Supported Idi Amin and Moamarr Qaddafi and too long a list to bother with. I suppose you could make the equally valid claim that the Nazis got rid of a lot of dictators.

What do you have against Ho Chi Minh... He was one of the good ones if ya ask me...

The US Goverment was just to paranoid, Minh even wanted to be on good terms with the US.

 

[ParkCungHee]

What do you have against Ho Chi Minh... He was one of the good ones if ya ask me...

The US Goverment was just to paranoid, Minh even wanted to be on good terms with the US.

Just saying he was a dictator. If you're going to say "got rid of dictators" than usually you mean you replaced em with non-dictators.

 

[BEHIND_THE_MASK]

Just saying he was a dictator. If you're going to say "got rid of dictators" than usually you mean you replaced em with non-dictators.

Im sure the US has never done that, isn't that right Saddam?

*Hold up puppet of Saddam*

Puppet: Thats right!!!

And anyways, what makes all Dictators evil. Peter the Great was pretty much a dictator, yet we call him great. I believe Turkey had a dictator following the fall of the Ottomans who was considered a good leader.

 

[Nuka-sama]

Dictators are bad

 

[BEHIND_THE_MASK]

Dictators are bad

Your completly right...

Damn you Peter The Great for modernizing Russia!!!
Damn you Roman Emperors for building an Empire!!!
Damn you Turkish guy whose name I am unable to recall!!!
Damn you God, for being in absolute control of everything!!! Step down and let us vote on it!!! But you wont cause you're afraid we'll vote your ass outta office!!!

 

[Bugfatty300]

#3 - Guns, such as the Ak-47 - They just kick ass, you gotta admit, from the 5MM Skorpion to the Classic AK-47Anyone got any others???

The 5mm what? The Vz 61 Skorpion is a Czech designed gun.

 

[Azale]

Your completly right...

Damn you Peter The Great for modernizing Russia!!!
Damn you Roman Emperors for building an Empire!!!
Damn you Turkish guy whose name I am unable to recall!!!
Damn you God, for being in absolute control of everything!!! Step down and let us vote on it!!! But you wont cause you're afraid we'll vote your ass outta office!!!

I would rather not be ruled by a dictator if given the choice, and if the OP is claiming the USSR was good because it deposed dictators...only to replace them with more efficient killing, communist dictators, then that is not an argument at all.

Btw, a fair deal of the Roman Emperor's were pretty bad. Tiberius? Caligula? Nero? It all depended on the man itself, which is not a very comforting thought as a Roman citizen.

The USSR was a horrible blotch in Russian history and those of you who try to pretty up its image are only failing your own intelligence. It failed the 200,000,000 people forced to live under it's mockery of a system. It failed those who dared to dream Communism as a fix to mankinds problems, failed them so bad it shattered it for good save for a few dillusional people who like to pretend that it did NOT fail utterly everywhere it's been practiced.

NOTHING good came out of the USSR other than maybe it driving the USA to increase its space program to keep up.

 

[Tekee]

Womans Suffrage, equality they were good thing of USSR,
The Demoractic Batista regime? He was the general that killed thousands of his own people but the US supported him against Casro becuase he defended US Interests in CUba

 

[Azale]

Womans Suffrage, equality they were good thing of USSR,

I doubt the USA or the rest of the world really looked at the USSR as an example for that though, so did it really "contribute" it?

The US is guilty of supporting the lesser of two evils in several countries, but it doesn't make the USSR's puppet any better.

Didn't the Soviets contribute some awesome tanks though?

 

[REDY]

I doubt the USA or the rest of the world really looked at the USSR as an example for that though, so did it really "contribute" it?

I study gender studies and its true. Communist countries in about 1950 were about 20 years more developed in this area than any western country.

 

[Plotinus]

Women's suffrage was pioneered by New Zealand.

 

[innonimatu]

Well, one good (I guess it depends on the POV) thing can be attributed to the Soviet Union: the cold war against the US ensured the collapse of european imperialism and forced europeans to cooperate. Despite the ravaging of WW2, european nations would still have clung to their colonial empires it the soviet threat didn't force them to an alliance with the US (which wanted to finish those empires as a first step to expand its own influence (the Suez crisis was the most obvious example). And the US might not have even bothered with paying lip service to "freedom" and gone straight to open imperialism (replacing europe) if there wasn't a strong counter-power during those decades it took the world to recover from WW2.

 

[ParkCungHee]

Im sure the US has never done that, isn't that right Saddam?

*Hold up puppet of Saddam*

Puppet: Thats right!!!

And anyways, what makes all Dictators evil. Peter the Great was pretty much a dictator, yet we call him great. I believe Turkey had a dictator following the fall of the Ottomans who was considered a good leader.

Fair enough, then I'm sure you'll be the first to lump praise on the Nazis for getting rid of dictators as well? The list is rather long: Petain, Metaxes, Horthy, Peter II, Dolfuss, Składkowski, Schuschnigg...

 

[BEHIND_THE_MASK]

Fair enough, then I'm sure you'll be the first to lump praise on the Nazis for getting rid of dictators as well? The list is rather long: Petain, Metaxes, Horthy, Peter II, Dolfuss, Składkowski, Schuschnigg...

I never praised anyone for falling dicators or anyone. I believe Saddam was a dictator that the US supported and then they god rid of, but they still supported him.

 

[ParkCungHee]

Thats not the point at all. YOu're trying to argue that the soviet union installing dictators was a good thing because the U.S. got rid of Saddam. Please trying restating your logic here, because I'm missing it.

 

[BEHIND_THE_MASK]

Thats not the point at all. YOu're trying to argue that the soviet union installing dictators was a good thing because the U.S. got rid of Saddam. Please trying restating your logic here, because I'm missing it.

I never claimed that.

I claimed Ho Chi Minh wasn't as bad and that not all Dictators are bad...

I never claimed that the USSR installing dicators was good and the US installing Dicators was bad, Id say that all installed Dictators are pretty much bad.