Space Force

[Hygro]

Why not Houston or San Antonio?

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Texas is lobbying for the HQ as well but I have not heard any rumors of their representatives acting inappropriately. The current front runner is Colorado which has been a traditional center of the Air Force's space components and is second only to California in space jobs.

 

[Hygro]

Let’s stick it in San Diego then

 

[Truthy]

Arlington, VA #1

 

[Truthy]

Isn't every branch of the military headquartered in the Pentagon or nearby? What would a "headquarters" outside of Arlington/DC do?

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Isn't every branch of the military headquartered in the Pentagon or nearby? What would a "headquarters" outside of Arlington/DC do?

Yes but it is similar to how NASA is structured. The nominal headquarters for the whole thing is in DC but there are very important field centers/bases scattered around the country. Most of the centers/bases have dedicated purposes and sometimes that includes bases that focus on actually running the branch of service. The DC facilities may be the nominal HQ, but it really focuses on branch-to-branch interactions and branch-to-government interfacing and less on the day-to-day running of the service. I am not sure that the other services have a true second HQ but the space-facing portion of the Air Force traditionally did and it is in Colorado.

The Space Force got an official, consecrated bible the other day...not sure if the other services have one or if this is due to the influence of the ongoing religious infiltration of the Air Force facilities in Colorado. The Academy in Colorado Springs in particular has been identified as a hotbed of fundamentalist recruiting and ideological conversion and is an ongoing scandal.

Hawaii is standing up its first Space Force National Guard squadron. I think the conversion from AF to SF national guard units is going to be a state-by-state process rather than a top-down directed effort. Which makes sense considering what the National Guard is.

 

[Broken_Erika]

US Space Force mocked for unveiling camouflage uniforms

The US Space Force has defended its newly unveiled camouflage uniforms after they were roundly mocked on social media.

The force, officially launched by US President Donald Trump last month, posted a picture of the uniform to its Twitter account.

The uniform in the picture has a woodland camouflage design with badges embroidered on the arm and chest.

Reacting to the uniform, many critics had the same question: "Camo in space?"

One Twitter user asked: "Have they never seen space before?"

Another illustrated the difference between space and camouflage, which is designed to help military personnel blend in with their surroundings.

The force explained its rationale in a tweeted response. It said it was "utilising current Army/Air Force uniforms" and "saving costs of designing/producing a new one" in doing so.

"Members will look like their joint counterparts they'll be working with, on the ground," the force added in the tweet.

But the force may as well have been tweeting in a vacuum, as the derision continued unabated.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51160547

 

[hobbsyoyo]

This is misreporting. A guy got his official Space Force patch but he's wearing the old USAF Space Command uniform with the new patch. They haven't made an official uniform choice.

They're also manufacturing controversy by reporting on twitter rants about how the camo won't work in space as if that has anything to do with Space Force jobs.

Surprising this came from the BBC

 

[uppi]

The Space Force got an official, consecrated bible the other day...not sure if the other services have one or if this is due to the influence of the ongoing religious infiltration of the Air Force facilities in Colorado. The Academy in Colorado Springs in particular has been identified as a hotbed of fundamentalist recruiting and ideological conversion and is an ongoing scandal.

First I was surprised that there are fundamentalists (or anyone) using consecrated bibles, but then I concluded that I should not have been surprised by that.

They're also manufacturing controversy by reporting on twitter rants about how the camo won't work in space as if that has anything to do with Space Force jobs.

Well, yeah, but camo is in no way useful for those real Space Force jobs in any case.

Unless the Space Force decides that it needs infantry and creates the Space Marine Corps.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

This guy made an interesting argument for calling the men and women of the Space Force 'spacers' instead of airmen or sailors or whatever.

https://spacenews.com/op-ed-what-should-we-call-the-men-and-women-of-space-force/

 

[IglooDame]

This guy made an interesting argument for calling the men and women of the Space Force 'spacers' instead of airmen or sailors or whatever.

https://spacenews.com/op-ed-what-should-we-call-the-men-and-women-of-space-force/

Frankly I can hardly think of a reason not to call them spacers. Airmen? No air in space, it's practically the definition of it. Sailors? While modern ships derived from sailing ships, it'd be more accurate in that vein to call Space Force folks rocketers. Rocketeers?

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Yeah the author threw that one out there but then argued it wasn't quite right since not everyone works on rocket systems. He's actually wrong on that though, pretty much every system the military launches has some form of rocket propulsion or another. The system itself may not be a rocket, but it will have a rocket on it; it's fundamental to space travel at this point.

 

[Hygro]

Laser Masters

 

[IglooDame]

<---- waits for "Jedi"

 

[hobbsyoyo]

This mad lad is arguing that the Space Force needs manned space planes lolwtf
https://spacenews.com/op-ed-a-space-force-needs-spaceships/

He makes a weird argument. Basically:

1. Launch is too expensive
2. The Space Force needs manned space planes
   
3. Single Stage To Orbit (SSTO) rockets are very cheap to operate
4. Therefore the Space Force should make SSTO reusable space planes

He gives an adequate description of the history of these efforts and the technological hurdles that remain to be fixed. However, he fixates on tri-propellant engines (all engines are either mono- or bi-propellant) as a necessary technology which doesn't make a lot of sense to me. But, his bio is that he makes rocket engines, so it makes sense that he'd be making this argument as it could help him get R&D contracts.

But the thing is, he never actually says why the Space Force needs manned space planes (2 above)

 

[FriendlyFire]

This is misreporting. A guy got his official Space Force patch but he's wearing the old USAF Space Command uniform with the new patch. They haven't made an official uniform choice.
They're also manufacturing controversy by reporting on twitter rants about how the camo won't work in space as if that has anything to do with Space Force jobs.
Surprising this came from the BBC

No point in new uniforms, The US Space force is just going to be people flying desks for a long while yet

Most likely be drone operators, when or if the US eventually gets around to putting weapons into orbit. I figure it should really be Navy in charge of the drones rather then the airforce as I envision space warfare to be more like Submarine combat then Fighter combat.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Most likely be drone operators

The guy who argued that they should be called 'spacers' also talked about operators for this reason. In the military though, operator means special forces, so it doesn't work.

 

[IglooDame]

The guy who argued that they should be called 'spacers' also talked about operators for this reason. In the military though, operator means special forces, so it doesn't work.

"gamers" then?

"joystick jockeys"?

"telepilots"?

 

[r16]

those who will not even make to Endors ?

 

[bernie14]

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