Verbose
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Baucause you spanked them or despite of it?
Not that anyone will ever be able to fully answer a question like that in retrospect.
Spanking kids usefull and needed till when?
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Not that anyone will ever be able to fully answer a question like that in retrospect.
Not being a parent, I'll just have to go by my own experiences of being spanked. It petered out pretty much by 4th grade for the most part, as there were other ways to punish me that had a greater effect on me, though I do remember a couple after that point. OH, and the paddling by the school in 7th grade, I'll never forget that. 
I figure by the time you're a pre-teen, there are probably ways to punish them that would be more devastating to the kid than a whipping would.
I figure by the time you're a pre-teen, there are probably ways to punish them that would be more devastating to the kid than a whipping would.
Leonel
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If you're talking about the swat to the bum, very sparingly and ONLY for a very good reason and you must state that reason to your kid afterwards with a heart to heart talk. Also it depends on the kid. If the kid listens to everything the parent says and makes corrections when told to, no need for spanking! But let's face it there are some kids that are just irrational and might need a little force to correct their ways. Like a UN resolution to use force on a particular country that continues to commit genocide against a population and ignoring any verbal pleas.
But the spanking that leaves a kid black and blue and bleeding from the mouth I'm not so much a fan of.
But the spanking that leaves a kid black and blue and bleeding from the mouth I'm not so much a fan of.
I'm sure everyone in this thread who has supported spanking would agree with you, Leonel. That's assault, child abuse, whatever you want to call it, but it's not a spanking.
No, you can't answer it for sure, because we aren't omniscient. I was spanked, though, and I don't think it did me any harm, and if I ever have kids then I'll probably do the same.Baucause you spanked them or despite of it?
Not that anyone will ever be able to fully answer a question like that in retrospect.
Honestly, as far as I can tell, most of the people who think spanking is barbaric and wrong never were spanked growing up. Most of the ones who were don't seem to have a problem with it. (I'm excluding of course the people who were not spanked but beaten and abused - I'm talking about responsible discipline, not child abuse) Rather ironic, actually.
Verbose
Deity
Actually, conformism sums up the societies of both the UK and US pretty well.
The UK still manages to play around with class-markers, with kind of severe social punishments for members who stray from their group, compared to most societies on the continent.
And the US is based on surprisingly tight social control within small communities. It's just that the size and diversity of the place means that there will be a great many of them conforming to different things. The basic assumption wthin communities is rather that non-conformists should go elsewhere if they don't like it. So from an individual's point of view life in the US definately doesn't look particularily devoid of social restraint, quite the opposite actually.
In some places in this world comformity means occasionally spanking your kids. In others it means never spanking your kids.
Which also means to some people getting spanked and adminstering a spanking is no big deal, while to others it is most definately cruel and unusual punishment. Diverging horizons of expecation...
Shadylookin
master debater
well if I ever have children hopefully I have the patience to never have to do it.
Well, if it's consensual....
That's pretty weird, but hey, it's a free country.
Well, since they base it on beliefs that it shouldn't, in theory, be consensual (but U.S. laws require consent), then one can reasonably conclude that in many cases, there really is no age limit when applied to their children - especially their unmarried daughters.Well, if it's consensual....
Elta
我不会把这种
spanking is the Doomsday Weapon.
it should be used as deterant, NOT on a day to day basis.
fear is a bigger and better punishment than striking your child.
children should be kept inline and safe.
spanking should apply only to what you (the parent) precieve as danger.
* personally, i was spanked quite often by my step dad.
not good at all.
but it kept me from stepping too far out of line.
** till i hacked his bleedin' corpse into tiny slivers and air shiped him to Iraq
i will, when i have kids, keep spanking to the bare minimum.
but when i do, FEAR ME!!!!
* and keep it safe. nothing to harsh.
just make sure you "insult" the child.
physical injury is a major
Why would you be spankin' yor little sistar?
Kids are not parents. I would never allow one of my children to spank the other.
As for all the nay sayers out there....I spanked my kids and they turned out great. /meh.
@ Leonel of course not since it is just a smack, it should never leave marks
At Soul warrior - Yeah the fear thing is the maon reason for it
Mobboss - we are 13 years apart and I have very good judgement in this reguard .....the girls love me, I am gonna be a good dad I think
@ the guy who said yeah it's good till they can beat you up - if this happens it means your children have no respect for you and you messed up. B.
MobBoss
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Baucause you spanked them or despite of it?
Not that anyone will ever be able to fully answer a question like that in retrospect.
Because I spanked them. They would have been spoiled brats otherwise.
exactly the other way around for me, I was never spanked and I will never spank my children. IMHO it sends entirely the wrong message.
If you have to resort to violence to make your kids have respect you're doing something wrong.
Elta
我不会把这种
If you have 3 year old who keeps trying to put an knife in the electrical outlet and does not listin when you say no you wouldn't swat her-his hand under any circumstances?
jeps
Arcadefire
I wouldnt give a three year old a knife.
but I was never spanked, nad never would. There are alternative punishments that do not include physical abuse. Mind over matter.
Hold them responsible, yell at them until they cry, do whatever, but not physical violence.
but I was never spanked, nad never would. There are alternative punishments that do not include physical abuse. Mind over matter.
Hold them responsible, yell at them until they cry, do whatever, but not physical violence.
Rossiya
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I do not particularly agree with spanking children either, but it intrigues me to what your answer to this question would be: do you think that yelling at a child until they cry would cause greater emotional hurt to the child than a simple spank on the bum?
jeps
Arcadefire
not necessarily. it takes almost nothing to make a child cry, which would be normal for others. in fact, simply raising your voice makes them cry. and raising your voice is often necessary. crying from words shows remorse of some sort, rather than pain. remorse is a much worse punishment than pain, but is not fear-inspiring.
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Not many children will burst into tearse when you start shouting.
skadistic
Caomhanach
I wouldn't I'd let 'em get bit by the 120v and learn the hard way.
I never suggested that there was no conformity in the US. It's just that the children don't necessarily feel a pressure to conform to the parents' ideals, but instead choose a certain youth culture, and conform to that.
Here I don't think that conforming is so important. Children are often embarrassed if their parents are class-conscious, rather than also class-conscious.
What about 240V?
