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[Dachs]

To: Salzburg
From: Spartan Fed.

All right, if that's what you want...We just want to be good neighbors. Do you wish to set up a trade route?

 

[Insane_Panda]

Timbuktu is not on the map, timbuktu is about at the top of that river in West Africa. Just google a map of Mali and you shall see it.

 

[Dachs]

Or you could use your nonexistant geography skillz0rz and remember where it is

Hoping against hope...Did anyone care about the weird story I wrote, and will it take up too much space if I write another one of similar length?

 

[North King]

To: Salzburg
From: Spartan Fed.

All right, if that's what you want...We just want to be good neighbors. Do you wish to set up a trade route?

We have no road (which IIRC is required, oddly, though water trade should really work), and we also would like to wait a few turns before doing much; our economy is, as you observed, blown to hell.

 

[Dachs]

OOC: What do you need all of the spears for? That's just insane, you could steamroll anyone unless they employed superior tactics...

We could just build a road, as soon as those pockets of resistance are eliminated. Water trade seems a little hard, since between us (me, you have no navy ) we cannot guarantee the safety of any shipments. Also, the only major ports Sparta controls are the base at Naupactus, Argos, and the excellent harbor at Pylos (modern-day Bay of Navarino). We could ask Athens to protect shipments, and split the royalties with them.

 

[Insane_Panda]

Or you could use your nonexistant geography skillz0rz and remember where it is

Did you know exactly where Timbuktu was? I was offering a suggestion to people who DIDN'T know where it was, they could simply google it and find out, and in the process of googling, voila! they can see where it is and remember it in the future. Isn't that amazing!!

Theres nothing wrong if someone needs to look up something, so don't insult others just because they cant remember where a west african city is.

ANYYYYVAYS; Azadre-san, I shall be PMing orders and such soon, with a full 10 paragraph essay of complaints!!!!

 

[North King]

Did you know exactly where Timbuktu was?

I did!

But then... I have other problems...

*goes back to writing*

 

[Insane_Panda]

I did!

But then... I have other problems...

*goes back to writing*

GAH! *throws stones at NK*

CALL UP THE LYNCH MOB. THE MOD HAS ESCAPED FROM HIS WRITING QUARTERS.

Well, I had a general idea that it was on the aforementioned west african river, but I didn't know where exactly.

 

[ThomAnder]

What's more likely as a UU for a northern chinese nation, some type of horse archers or crossbowmen? just wonderin...

 

[alex994]

Horse Archers wouldn't work, i would more say a heavly armored horsemen like the Rider in Civ III. And btw, SHu accepts your offer in the PM.

 

[North King]

Really I'd suspect you could make near any unit work. You could man extensive fortificiations with archers, secure your lines with pikes, arm light horse to chase away their horse archers, arm heavy horse to try crushing them, just about anything except horse archers of your own, since they'll never be on a par with those who were born on the freaking steppe.

 

[Dachs]

Okay, fine, no more bashing. Still, nobody seems to care about my bad writing. Does it matter to anyone if I keep going?

Heavy troops just don't work on horse archers. Depending on what kind of enemy horse archer (regular Scythian type or more of a cataphract kind, with both bow and sword), you could conceivably train heavy infantry, and have regular archers supporting them to keep the enemy arrows from being too effective. You could also invent a similar tactic to that of the Romans, where they used their shields and formed something of a tortoise.

 

[alex994]

yeah, fighting steppe nomads are hard for chinese type armies. ask north king about my 1000 year war with mongolia

 

[Insane_Panda]

Rider should not be UU for china! The name is so erm, simple. I mean a rider could mean a cowboy for all we know...

 

[Insane_Panda]

I personally like thou stories, dachsmpg. (for some reason i keep thinking your name is pronounced dachspmoogie. )

KEEP ON TEH WRITANG. we need good stories every so often.

 

[North King]

Heavy troops just don't work on horse archers. Depending on what kind of enemy horse archer (regular Scythian type or more of a cataphract kind, with both bow and sword), you could conceivably train heavy infantry, and have regular archers supporting them to keep the enemy arrows from being too effective. You could also invent a similar tactic to that of the Romans, where they used their shields and formed something of a tortoise.

Depends on how you play it strategically. If you manage to outflank a whole army of them and attack from three directions at once and pin them, heavy cavalry will just massacre them.

 

[Dachs]

How are you going to pull off an op like that in unknown steppe? I suppose the lack of rough terrain in some places (don't try this in the Gobi) can make it easier to maneuver, and would increase the power of a phalanx-type unit, which would be able to maintain cohesion on flat terrain. Story soon, I want to include some cultural stuff in there too. Just to make the Rashkans happy.

 

[North King]

How are you going to pull off an op like that in unknown steppe? I suppose the lack of rough terrain in some places (don't try this in the Gobi) can make it easier to maneuver, and would increase the power of a phalanx-type unit, which would be able to maintain cohesion on flat terrain. Story soon, I want to include some cultural stuff in there too. Just to make the Rashkans happy.

Uknown steppe? Easy enough, lure them with sufficient force, perhaps against a river, then ford what they would never think fordable with boats, disembark behind them, and attack them from there while another force attacks perhaps directly from the river.

Just an example.

 

[Dachs]

Like Issus. That's a good idea, in barren Mongolia one could replace your river with a wadi or a gorge, and keep up pressure from archers while the heavy infantry moves through.

 

[alex994]

Like Issus. That's a good idea, in barren Mongolia one could replace your river with a wadi or a gorge, and keep up pressure from archers while the heavy infantry moves through.

The problem is getting into Mongolia while your own cities are being besieged and sacked and your farms and fields being destroyed and plundered....