Steven Assanti is going to Die

[Rashiminos]

Imagine if you weighted 350 kilograms. I doubt you would be able to stay calm. As noted i doubt Assanti will manage to lose enough weight so as to have the operation, but to argue he is a matter of economics (ie to generalise this for obese people in general) is gravely mistaken.

I'm imagining that he has had no real need to learn to be calm. Was that the intention of this exercise?

 

[Synobun]

It's a very linear view of situation to assume that 'niceness' will always trump other tones of communication (although a mismatch in tone and action is even more counterproductive).
Yes we are. Negative feedback can be used to curtail such aberrant behavior.

In the hypothetical where Assanti's mental illness is the primary cause of his condition, what allowed that illness to go inadequately challenged? (At this point Assanti is more likely to drag people into 'dark' hole with him. I'm sure that adjective is purely coincidental on your part, right?)

Their willingness to give him a continuing supply of helpings is not rooted in a lack of empathy. They do care about him on some level, even if ignorance confounds their intentions. A non-empathetic, self-serving person would rarely have such intentions.

Maybe someone should find out what it takes to support 4/5 bodies-in-one. Until that figure comes in, we can at least assume that the lower life expectancy is a cost. Additionally, you called all of us creatures in this post, which is relatively amusing.

Edit:

There seems to be an indication of expense here, Synsensa.



Or perhaps an inefficient use of hospital facilities?


The sort of help he wants involves ordering people to feed him. He may not particularly want those other forms of help, but I surmise he's willing to take advantage of attitudes that lead to latter to meet the prerogative of the former.

Nah dawg. You're trying to justify treating someone like an unworthy beast simply because you don't like the decisions they've made. Your way of going about that is to cherry pick sentences and intentionally ignore tone and intent while doing so. Debating the "chicken or the egg" argument is also irrelevant. Have a good day.

 

[Rashiminos]

Nah dawg. You're trying to justify treating someone like an unworthy beast simply because you don't like the decisions they've made. Your way of going about that is to cherry pick sentences and intentionally ignore tone and intent while doing so. Debating the "chicken or the egg" argument is also irrelevant. Have a good day.

That's your problem, Syn. Toodles. My argument is that indulgence of maladaptive behaviors is destructive, and if your definition of being "humane" includes serving others, that indulgence is ultimately inhumane. If your claim is to suggest that politeness must accompany proper treatment, then I question the purpose of calling me a "dawg" in this last post. The tone of your posts belying your supposed point only causes me to reach for the .

pull yourself out of the dark hole you've found yourself in.

If you're still glancing at this post, I'll leave it to you to ponder why I would give 'special notice' to this particular detail.

 

[bhavv]

Drug addiction is classified as mental illness because it alters brain function.

However food addiction is not.

I was correct in all statements that this guy doesn't have any mental illness, is a grade A douchebag, and doesn't deserve any sympathy or free healthcare. It was completely correct for the hospital to boot him out for not following their care regimen, and even more so for his abusiveness towards the staff.

I remain perplexed as to why anyone can feel any kind of sympathy towards this guy. He doesn't deserve any, and if he is going to die, yes it would be entirely his own fault.

 

[Rashiminos]

Drug addiction is classified as mental illness because it alters brain function.

However food addiction is not.

I was correct in all statements that this guy doesn't have any mental illness, is a grade A douchebag, and doesn't deserve any sympathy or free healthcare. It was completely correct for the hospital to boot him out for not following their care regimen, and even more so for his abusiveness towards the staff.

I remain perplexed as to why anyone can feel any kind of sympathy towards this guy. He doesn't deserve any, and if he is going to die, yes it would be entirely his own fault.

Aside from the parents, I imagine there's some yearning to fix the circumstances that created this problem, and the no-sympathy "let him die" option does not (at least not obviously) assist that goal.

In that vein, I would not be so quick to dismiss food addiction as not being some sort of brain-altering coping mechanism whereby undoing or replacing that brain function with suitable treatment (although I'm not suggesting that refusing service is an incompatible treatment) could also result in mitigating the other repugnant behaviors.

 

[BvBPL]

That Assanti now is a jerk in those videos at least, is obvious.

I want to point out again that the videos were from three years ago. His statements in those videos may no longer reflect his current mindset. those statements probably came at an incredibly stressful time for him, and statements made at that time may not reflect his general contemporary mien.

He probably hasn't changed. That said it is impossible for us to say whether or not he has changed. While most people do not change their behavior patterns significantly over three years, some do. His commitment to being in the hospital and losing weight for eighty days this year and his contemporary statements to the press could indicate that he has undergone a personal sea change.

Or maybe not. Point being, we can't say at this time.

 

[Paul in Saudi]

Flying Pig is right. Standard hospitals are not trained or equipped to deal with situations like this.

Yeah, I think that is probably a bit or more of it. You would think there would be specialty hospitals for this. (Are there?)

I, by the way, am awaiting my Pizza Hut pizza. Thursday is our Friday after all.

 

[NovaKart]

Same here, then back to work on Sunday . Actually I might have to go in on Saturday too. I can't complain too much since we got a few days off because of political problems.

Anyway, I have a hard time imagining someone got that large even through food addiction. Maybe there's some sort of other condition he has that causes such an extreme weight gain in addition to food addiction.

 

[Kyriakos]

There is also the fact that he is by all means virtually immobile. Hard to burn calories if you can't move.
TBH i am surprised he is even alive.