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Jason The King
Deity
Map edit (when I get home): Italy should be independent.
Jason The King
Deity
Histography - Nation who exports the Most in their Region
1. Denmark - Europe
2. Sinhala - Middle East/Asia
3. Egypt - Africa
4. USSA - North America
5. France/Spain - South America
Synopsis: Even though the UK has strong economic status in Europe and its industrial might is almost the same as Denmark, it has a population at home that must be produced for first. Denmark, on the other hand, has a powerful industry but needs to export most of its surplus goods due to the small national market at home.
Sinhala has, for a long time, been the industrial giant of Asia. Dwarfing its neighbors Sumer and China, Sinhalese goods are prominent in most markets as far as Pacifica and Ozeania, though not very popular in China. If it weren't for the British presence in the area, Sinhala could very well have the strongest export numbers in the world.
Egypt has always been the epicenter for industrial growth, especially in Africa. Most other nations don't have much of an industry to account for, their economy is based on producing raw resources for export to Egypt. The ACE programs helps Egyptian goods reach these nations cheaply, and for their raw materials to easily flood into Egypt. Egypt may very well be the strongest industrial power of the world.
USSA was once one of the strongest industrial powers on the face of the planet, but since the war with the British and the destruction of the eastern seaboard metropolitan cities, USSA has seen a decline in industrial capacity. She still reigns supreme over her neighbors in North America, but her prestige as an industrial powerhouse has deminished elsewhere. Nobody but Americans usually buy USSA products. And with the rise of Mexican industry, the communist state may need to take drastic actions to keep USSA exporting more then it imports.
South America has yet to produce goods on its own, and relies heavily on the exports of its past European mothercountries. France used to dominate the whole of the continent, but with its drastic decline in industrial production following the war and the Treaty of Versailles, her goods are less and less abundant. Markets are continually looking for an alternative, and what seems to be chosen over and over are Spanish goods. Spain has controlled southern part of South America for centuries, and has established a firm market in the area (though the Argentine-colony exports much more then it imports). From there, Spanish influence has traveled norhtward, and is increasingly replacing once firm French market control.
Nations that Export the Most (overall)
1. Egypt
2. Sinhala
3. Denmark
4. UK
5. Spain
1. Denmark - Europe
2. Sinhala - Middle East/Asia
3. Egypt - Africa
4. USSA - North America
5. France/Spain - South America
Synopsis: Even though the UK has strong economic status in Europe and its industrial might is almost the same as Denmark, it has a population at home that must be produced for first. Denmark, on the other hand, has a powerful industry but needs to export most of its surplus goods due to the small national market at home.
Sinhala has, for a long time, been the industrial giant of Asia. Dwarfing its neighbors Sumer and China, Sinhalese goods are prominent in most markets as far as Pacifica and Ozeania, though not very popular in China. If it weren't for the British presence in the area, Sinhala could very well have the strongest export numbers in the world.
Egypt has always been the epicenter for industrial growth, especially in Africa. Most other nations don't have much of an industry to account for, their economy is based on producing raw resources for export to Egypt. The ACE programs helps Egyptian goods reach these nations cheaply, and for their raw materials to easily flood into Egypt. Egypt may very well be the strongest industrial power of the world.
USSA was once one of the strongest industrial powers on the face of the planet, but since the war with the British and the destruction of the eastern seaboard metropolitan cities, USSA has seen a decline in industrial capacity. She still reigns supreme over her neighbors in North America, but her prestige as an industrial powerhouse has deminished elsewhere. Nobody but Americans usually buy USSA products. And with the rise of Mexican industry, the communist state may need to take drastic actions to keep USSA exporting more then it imports.
South America has yet to produce goods on its own, and relies heavily on the exports of its past European mothercountries. France used to dominate the whole of the continent, but with its drastic decline in industrial production following the war and the Treaty of Versailles, her goods are less and less abundant. Markets are continually looking for an alternative, and what seems to be chosen over and over are Spanish goods. Spain has controlled southern part of South America for centuries, and has established a firm market in the area (though the Argentine-colony exports much more then it imports). From there, Spanish influence has traveled norhtward, and is increasingly replacing once firm French market control.
Nations that Export the Most (overall)
1. Egypt
2. Sinhala
3. Denmark
4. UK
5. Spain
Jason The King
Deity
Wow, I feel like im posting waaay to much, but heres 2 questions i would like to hear your responses about.
1. Should I do more lengthy, better quality and more specific updates on a weekly base, or keep it as it is (short and simple, updated 2-3 times a week).
2. Do you want an industry stat that, when multiplied by, say, 5,000 you will know how many men you can recruit with an economy, and will tell you how many ships you can build with an economy, etc? Or keep it the way it is now, standard upgrades in armies and navies, and industry is only a factor in random/economic events?
1. Should I do more lengthy, better quality and more specific updates on a weekly base, or keep it as it is (short and simple, updated 2-3 times a week).
2. Do you want an industry stat that, when multiplied by, say, 5,000 you will know how many men you can recruit with an economy, and will tell you how many ships you can build with an economy, etc? Or keep it the way it is now, standard upgrades in armies and navies, and industry is only a factor in random/economic events?
Oruc
Reactionary
I would like to know how much industry I have, also how the hell I increase it.
oh and sorry about those missed orders.
oh and sorry about those missed orders.
MjM
Deity
1. I like having alot of updates a week. And they are good ones.
2. I like the system the way it is now.
2. I like the system the way it is now.
naervod
My current user title
I think we should just keep it the way it is for both updates and the industry/economy stats.
conehead234
Braves on the Warpath
I like the current update system, and I would like an industry stat.
KrimzonStriker
Master of the Dawn
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How the heck do I get my economy back up???
Alright if that's the way those Mongol's want to play it that way I'm ordering the construction of Labor Camps in Mongolia and deporting all Mongols resisting my rule. That should get me some income back. and I don't know spend one eco level on my navy. Continue containing the Japanese gurriellas, restrict all movement in and out of the territory for now, cut those rebels off from the outside world and let them starve.
Alright if that's the way those Mongol's want to play it that way I'm ordering the construction of Labor Camps in Mongolia and deporting all Mongols resisting my rule. That should get me some income back. and I don't know spend one eco level on my navy. Continue containing the Japanese gurriellas, restrict all movement in and out of the territory for now, cut those rebels off from the outside world and let them starve.
foolish icarus
Shipwreck
keep things the way they are on both counts
The Republic of New Sioux
Diplomacy to USSA :
Then let our alliance stand strong through fortune and adversity!
To Mexico :
With the conclusion of our unfortunate war, we seek normalized relations now.
To Denmark :
We wish to negotiate the return of Vancouver and outlying islands.
With the conclusion of the war and our economy and infrastructure in disrepair, drastic measures will have to be taken.
Individual Conscript soldiers may return to civilian life or stay on in the army.
The damaged cities will have to be rebuilt, and farmland rehabilitated. To this end we will be purchasing industrial equipment, primarily from the USSA, such as high quality metal plows, grain threshing equipment, blast furnaces, and the like. Our lands have vast quantities of mineral resources that the surrounding countries can use in their industries, which we can mine and transport, and once our farms are up and producing again, they can help feed the cities of this continent.
The Republic of New Sioux
Diplomacy to USSA :
Then let our alliance stand strong through fortune and adversity!
To Mexico :
With the conclusion of our unfortunate war, we seek normalized relations now.
To Denmark :
We wish to negotiate the return of Vancouver and outlying islands.
With the conclusion of the war and our economy and infrastructure in disrepair, drastic measures will have to be taken.
Individual Conscript soldiers may return to civilian life or stay on in the army.
The damaged cities will have to be rebuilt, and farmland rehabilitated. To this end we will be purchasing industrial equipment, primarily from the USSA, such as high quality metal plows, grain threshing equipment, blast furnaces, and the like. Our lands have vast quantities of mineral resources that the surrounding countries can use in their industries, which we can mine and transport, and once our farms are up and producing again, they can help feed the cities of this continent.
naervod
My current user title
OOC: Does that tiny piece of Argentina by the River Plate belong to the Teutonic Order?
Insane_Panda
Deity
Jason, no confidence boosts for story and formation of Italy? 
Otherwise, excellent update - I'd prefer to keep the current system, though an industry stat might be nice...
Otherwise, excellent update - I'd prefer to keep the current system, though an industry stat might be nice...
Insane_Panda
Deity
You have to keep it as a PNG or else colors will be really screwed, revert to an older copy of the map in this thread and use that as a base to do the new update.
Jason The King
Deity
naervod, yes.
To New Sioux
From Denmark
We have deliberated this issue and have come to the conlusion that the Victorian island and those outlying it shall remain under the government of Denmark. Thank you for your time.
To New Sioux
From Denmark
We have deliberated this issue and have come to the conlusion that the Victorian island and those outlying it shall remain under the government of Denmark. Thank you for your time.
Jason The King
Deity
Now I am starting to second guess myself on some history of this NES...was the Panama canal built by this time? Sheep? Plexus? Kamilian? Anyone know?
Insane_Panda
Deity
[arrogant tone]Could I get an answer please?[/arrogant tone]
Insane_Panda
Deity
TO: Egypt
FROM: The United Kingdom of Great Britain
While we understand your concerns, it seems that Egypt believes France to be the exact same nation it was at the start of the Great War. France is no longer the France of the past, and the new government has no designs on Egypt or Africa. The whole of Europe for that matter does not desire or need any part of Africa. The Europeans are content with Europe, and we ask that you stop your premature assumptions on what we, the nations of Europe, will or will not do.
Furthermore, the French people were not responsible for the war, their former government was. It is horrendously irresponsible that you, a supposedly benevolent world power, would seek to deny the French people their natural rights to grow and prosper. The French people have the same rights as those of the Egyptian people, and are in no way inferior to them. Egypt, or any other nation for that matter, has no right to stop the French people from growing and becoming rich as they once were. You have a right to restrict their military, as dictated by Versaille, but you cannot restrict the French people in their pursuit of happiness.
Lastly, we reviewed the Treaty terms of Versaille, and we found no article of it which dictated that Britain had to hand over ships, or any other type of payment for that matter. We will, however, in a gesture of goodwill send 5 wooden ships-of-the-line to the Egyptian Navy, but that is all, for we will only agree to terms as they were written and dictated in the Hall of Mirrors - this includes terms restricting a renewed Franco-British Alliance. As it stands there were no such terms, and therefore we are not oblidged to follow what was not dictated to us by the nations of the world.
We hope to continue civil relations with the Egyptian Government, but we must remind it that it cannot do whatever it pleases, and that Britain and the nations of Europe will only submit to the terms of Versaille, and not to the terms of foriegn governments.
We also finally ask that you cease in your belligerent tone towards the French Government, for a war against France would mean a war against Britain and Denmark aswell and though you may prevail in the end, the cost of millions of innocent lives would far outwiegh the benefits.
Insane_Panda
Deity
@Jason: What would the selling of newfoundland do to economy/confidence?
foolish icarus
Shipwreck
What is the recent history of Victoria Island--How long was it Sioux, how did Denmark acquire it, and for how long have they occupied it? What percentage of the population is Sioux?
MjM
Deity
To Panama
From Mexico
Your growing Socialist movements scare us brother. Do you not see that you are going down the wrong path? Further separting your people from democracy? We will not tolerate the oppersion the Socialist government puts on the People. We demand you send us the leaders of your Socialist goverment to be put on trial.
From Mexico
Your growing Socialist movements scare us brother. Do you not see that you are going down the wrong path? Further separting your people from democracy? We will not tolerate the oppersion the Socialist government puts on the People. We demand you send us the leaders of your Socialist goverment to be put on trial.
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